There was a thread on this topic here several years ago, plus much about
CSS signatures. I am wondering whether it is still considered a useful
idea to add <body id="www-ericlindsay-com"> or some equivalent to all my
web pages.
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Deciding to do something for the good of humanity, Eric Lindsay
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comp.infosystems. www.authoring.html: I am wondering whether it is still considered a useful
idea to add <body id="www-ericlindsay-com"> or some equivalent to all my
web pages.
If they're all going to be the same, no.
It can be useful to have an id on the <body> though - I use it to denote
different sections of the site, and use that in my CSS to style the
"current section" link in the menu differently.
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Mark Parnell <we*******@clarkecomputers.com.au> writes: Eric Lindsay <NO**********@ericlindsay.com>:
I am wondering whether it is still considered a useful
idea to add <body id="www-ericlindsay-com"> or some equivalent to all my
web pages.
Define ‘useful’. If it is about quantity, the answer is probably no.
If they're all going to be the same, no.
It can be useful to have an id on the <body> though - I
That's the (missed) point. A 'domain signature' is not about your but
about your visitor's convenience, and CSS would in most cases do a
better (incremental) job than greasemonkey and the likes to fix things
at the remote end.
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In article <m3************@nntp.bednarz.nl>,
Eric B. Bednarz <be*****@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> wrote: Mark Parnell <we*******@clarkecomputers.com.au> writes:
Eric Lindsay <NO**********@ericlindsay.com>:
I am wondering whether it is still considered a useful
idea to add <body id="www-ericlindsay-com"> or some equivalent to all my
web pages.
Define ‘useful’. If it is about quantity, the answer is probably no.
As a hobby site, quantity isn't my first consideration. However as well
as being for the convenience of the (almost certainly very few) visitors
who know about and seek a CSS Signature, it does give me a bit of a
response to critics. Namely, if you don't like the way my site appears,
here is a mechanism that lets you change how it appears. I suspect I
will go through several designs I don't like before I get to my final
design. I could add a page mentioning CSS signatures (with pointers to
places explaining it better), plus make example stylesheets available.
Some of my friends have artistic skills I lack. I might even get lucky
with a much better looking site from one of them.
If they're all going to be the same, no.
It can be useful to have an id on the <body> though - I
That's the (missed) point. A 'domain signature' is not about your but
about your visitor's convenience, and CSS would in most cases do a
better (incremental) job than greasemonkey and the likes to fix things
at the remote end.
I intend another post for questions about id and/or class on html and
body, as there are several things design sites have said that I don't
follow. However you certainly picked the point of this post, it was
about making things better for the odd visitor who knows and uses CSS
signatures.
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Deciding to do something for the good of humanity, Eric Lindsay
<NO**********@ericlindsay.com> spouted in
comp.infosystems. www.authoring.html: it was
about making things better for the odd visitor who knows and uses CSS
signatures.
Having never heard the term "CSS signatures", I missed your point
entirely. :-\
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Eric Lindsay <NO**********@ericlindsay.com> writes: As a hobby site, quantity isn't my first consideration.
Uhm...
However as well
as being for the convenience of the (almost certainly very few)
visitors
Ah; *that* was the quantity I meant. It's useful to such a small amount
of people that you probably just could not bother as well (they must
visit your site in the first place, be CSS-savvy, and find it butt-ugly
as well as useful _and_ exclusive enough to mangle a dedicated - section
of a - user style sheet in order to come back :).
OTOH, it mostly doesn't hurt either (I'm working on a CMS with some
fancy DOM scripting where it would, but that's not normal :).
Namely, if you don't like the way my site appears,
I run away that direction... <=
;)
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in comp.infosystems. www.authoring.html, Mark Parnell wrote: Deciding to do something for the good of humanity, Eric Lindsay
<NO**********@ericlindsay.com> spouted in
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html:
it was
about making things better for the odd visitor who knows and uses CSS
signatures.
Having never heard the term "CSS signatures", I missed your point
entirely. :-\
I have been site specific CSS from before CSS-signatures were invented,
and I think CSS signatures makes it much easierl. Still won't be much use
for everybody, but on new site, no work at all is needed. If they would
become mainstream on popular sites, situation can change fast.
Practically, if there is CSS signature on your site and use lean
HTML+CSS, it is possible to tailor web experience very easily.
Without, there is need for additional steps. Debugging invalid and CSS
signatureless page is not suitable for most people. I do it myself, but
only for really important websites for me, that stay same long perids of
time.
I have very outdated tutorial on subject in 'net
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Lauri Raittila <la***@raittila.cjb.net> wrote: I have been site specific CSS from before CSS-signatures were invented,
and I think CSS signatures makes it much easierl. Still won't be much use
for everybody, but on new site, no work at all is needed.
That was what I thought when I came across the idea. Since I am trying
to move my site to a CMS (and doing cleanup while I am about it), adding
a CSS signature isn't all that much effort.
Without [CSS signature], there is need for additional steps. Debugging invalid and CSS
signatureless page is not suitable for most people. I do it myself, but
only for really important websites for me, that stay same long perids of
time.
Have you tried Aaron Boodman's Greasemonkey Firefox extension, designed
for running user scripts customised for individual sites? James
(Brothercake) Edwards had an interesting article about it at
http://www.sitepoint.com/article/bea...e-greasemonkey
I haven't tried it myself, and I realise I tend to hear about this sort
of thing rather later than you folk, but it sounded interesting.
I have very outdated tutorial on subject in 'net
That was one of the items I consulted prior to asking my question.
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in comp.infosystems. www.authoring.html, Eric Lindsay wrote: In article <MP************************@news.individual.net> ,
Lauri Raittila <la***@raittila.cjb.net> wrote:
I have been site specific CSS from before CSS-signatures were invented,
and I think CSS signatures makes it much easierl. Still won't be much use
for everybody, but on new site, no work at all is needed.
That was what I thought when I came across the idea. Since I am trying
to move my site to a CMS (and doing cleanup while I am about it), adding
a CSS signature isn't all that much effort.
Do it, even some people considered to be good on CSS make big problems
and refuse to accept problems. (For example Marks HTML tutorial used to
have fixed menu, that didn't work on small window... I fixed that client
side...) Without [CSS signature], there is need for additional steps. Debugging invalid and CSS
signatureless page is not suitable for most people. I do it myself, but
only for really important websites for me, that stay same long perids of
time.
Have you tried Aaron Boodman's Greasemonkey Firefox extension, designed
for running user scripts customised for individual sites? James
(Brothercake) Edwards had an interesting article about it at
http://www.sitepoint.com/article/bea...e-greasemonkey
I haven't tried it myself, and I realise I tend to hear about this sort
of thing rather later than you folk, but it sounded interesting.
I looked at it long ago, but there is also few ways to do it without. I
have been using Opera, as it is far superior browser, and use userjs
solution (bit flaky, wouldn't recommend for anyone using less that 5 year
old computer...) That is optimal for this old laptop. (I simply can't run
FF with 50 tabs with newsclient, winamp and few terminals) I have very outdated tutorial on subject in 'net
That was one of the items I consulted prior to asking my question.
Nice to know. Someday I have time to update that...
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