I am a bit curious about this.
The graphic design people I work with say it is their preferred font for
web pages. The reason being that it is "kinder" to the eye both in terms
of shape and size.
The HTML "hardcore elititst" profess that it is a useless font because
it is too big compared to other fonts.
Personally I do not care one way or the other, but I generally trust
graphic designers more than programmers and rules lawyers when it comes
to pure design.
It seems to me that the only argument against using Verdana is that a
large number of browsers do not support it and therefore it causes their
pages to render with a very small font.
Can anyone honestly say they do not have the Verdana font installed?
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"Ståle Sæbøe" wrote in comp.infosystem s. www.authoring.stylesheets:If he did not mess with the browser in the first place, chances are he
sees the verdana and is pleased with the nice readable product description.
Translation: You don't care if you screw things up for the people
who actually took the time to set their preferences in the browser
anyway.
"Mess with the browser"? -- You [expletivce deleted], whose
browser do you think it is, anyway?
And why do you post a question here if you have no intention of
listening to the answers?
--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA http://OakRoadSystems.com/
"Martin!" wrote in comp.infosystem s. www.authoring.stylesheets: That's why using pt or px is a bad idea.
idealistic and thus unrealistic
"Unrealisti c", in your lexicon, apparently discounts the hundreds
of thousands of web pages that use neither px nor pt for text
sizes.
--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA http://OakRoadSystems.com/
Ståle Sæbøe <ot*****@tdz.no > wrote: You do not need a test for this it is a valid logical argument. a is
smaller than b. Reduce the size of both a and b by an equal percentage.
a is still smaller than b.
But by a factor of 2.
Huh? a is 20% smaller than b. Both a and b is reduced 50%. a is still
20% smaller than b. Where does the factor of 2 come in?
Client reduced + Author reduced = 2 * reduced.
There is no one who contests this here.
You seem to argue that it's ok to loose a percentage of visitors for the
sake of esthetics. The beauty of the web is that the next service or
shop is only a few clicks away. Anyone using a web site to generate
revenue who favours their aesthetic preference over turnover is a fool.
Your arguments are getting sloppy. The whole point of the compromise is
to please MOST of the visitors instead of catering to the minority. Redo
your logic.
I summed up your position accurately, you are a fool.
--
Spartanicus
in comp.infosystem s. www.authoring.stylesheets, Els wrote: kchayka wrote:
Els wrote:
Then you haven't looked at my site. 100% Verdana ;-)
No, I see 100% Arial. Which is ugly, IMO.
I sometimes consider uninstalling Arial because I'm sick of looking at
it on web pages.
If you find Arial so ugly, why don't you install Verdana?
Because it is even uglier?
Or set a user stylesheet with the font you like?
First I would need to find font that I like.
--
Lauri Raittila <http://www.iki.fi/lr> <http://www.iki.fi/zwak/fonts>
Utrecht, NL.
in comp.infosystem s. www.authoring.stylesheets, =?ISO-8859-
1?Q?St=E5le_S=E 6b=F8e?= wrote: Stan Brown wrote: "Ståle Sæbøe" wrote in comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.stylesheets:
I am a bit curious about this.
http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/webmatters/verdana.html
I read that before I started this thread. That guy only has one
argument. It is incredible how he manages to fill 2 pages to explain it.
Because it is obviously hard to understand
I repeated it in my original post.
Yes, so you misunderstood it.
--
Lauri Raittila <http://www.iki.fi/lr> <http://www.iki.fi/zwak/fonts>
Utrecht, NL.
in comp.infosystem s. www.authoring.stylesheets, Martin! wrote: That's why using pt or px is a bad idea.
idealistic and thus unrealistic
Is there any problem in using the default font size? No, so why is it
unrealistic?
--
Lauri Raittila <http://www.iki.fi/lr> <http://www.iki.fi/zwak/fonts>
Utrecht, NL.
On Fri, 18 Mar 2005, Martin! wrote: That's why using pt or px is a bad idea.
idealistic and thus unrealistic
Neither. This is a strange reality you live in, in which (apparently)
hardly any reader can use the font size which they chose or which
their vendor chose for them, that they have to wait for *you* to come
along and correct the problem for them.
Perhaps you'd care to share with us why you, specially *you*, should
be privy to this secret of your readers' ideal font size - that is
somehow denied to the actual readers, and to those who design the
software which they use? Fascinating.
Lauri Raittila wrote: in comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.stylesheets, Els wrote: kchayka wrote:
> I sometimes consider uninstalling Arial because I'm sick of looking at
> it on web pages.
If you find Arial so ugly, why don't you install Verdana?
Because it is even uglier?
LOL. I think Arial might be uglier than Verdana, but they're close. Or set a user stylesheet with the font you like?
First I would need to find font that I like.
Finally, someone who understands. :)
Seems like I change my browser default font every month looking for that
perfect screen font. Neither Verdana nor Arial is it, of that I'm sure.
I'm not convinced there is only one, anyway. Sometimes serif is better,
sometimes sans. It depends on the content and how fatigued my eyes are.
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Please reply to the group so everyone can share.
Ståle Sæbøe wrote:
Your arguments are getting sloppy. The whole point of the compromise is
to please MOST of the visitors instead of catering to the minority. Redo
your logic.
The whole point is actually to meet the needs of your client. Shutting
the door on potential customers does not meet the needs of your client.
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