I am a bit curious about this.
The graphic design people I work with say it is their preferred font for
web pages. The reason being that it is "kinder" to the eye both in terms
of shape and size.
The HTML "hardcore elititst" profess that it is a useless font because
it is too big compared to other fonts.
Personally I do not care one way or the other, but I generally trust
graphic designers more than programmers and rules lawyers when it comes
to pure design.
It seems to me that the only argument against using Verdana is that a
large number of browsers do not support it and therefore it causes their
pages to render with a very small font.
Can anyone honestly say they do not have the Verdana font installed?
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Els wrote: Blinky the Shark wrote:
Els wrote: Blinky the Shark wrote:
Ståle Sæbøe wrote: Can anyone honestly say they do not have the Verdana font installed?
I do not have Verdana font installed.
I don't think anyone has it installed on a Linux machine?
I'm not sure do you think that or not? :)
I don't for about 80%, the other 20% is thinking that about 2.4% of
Linux users might like Verdana enough to install it ;-)
At least it didn't come with the SuSE version I have here.
I don't know why it couldn't be installed; I've not seen a reason to.
Me neither - Bitstream Vera Sans is good enough for me :-)
OT: Assuming the X-face is you - weren't you wearing a hat yesterday?
Not me.
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Blinky the Shark wrote: OT: Assuming the X-face is you - weren't you wearing a hat yesterday?
Not me.
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Harlan Messinger wrote: The problems with Verdana aren't a question of pure design, which is why
the graphic designers don't have the whole story. By way of exaggerating
the situation so as to illustrate the point: if a font were configured
so that, when "10pt" was specified, the letters were two centimeters
high (or, alternatively, one millimeter high), it would be a problem, no
matter how pleasing the font might be to the eye.
I have browsed the web since before graphic browsers. I have worked on
old and new lap tops and PCs, with huge monitors and tiny displays. I
have never experienced the phenomena you describe.
For those that do not know: 1pt = 1/72 inch. 10pt means 10px in a 72dpi
display and around 20px in a 144dpi display.
Els wrote:
Then you haven't looked at my site. 100% Verdana ;-)
No, I see 100% Arial. Which is ugly, IMO.
I sometimes consider uninstalling Arial because I'm sick of looking at
it on web pages.
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Spartanicus wrote: Ståle Sæbøe <ot*****@tdz.no > wrote:
You do not need a test for this it is a valid logical argument. a is
smaller than b. Reduce the size of both a and b by an equal percentage.
a is still smaller than b.
But by a factor of 2.
Huh? a is 20% smaller than b. Both a and b is reduced 50%. a is still
20% smaller than b. Where does the factor of 2 come in?
There is no one who contests this here.
You seem to argue that it's ok to loose a percentage of visitors for the
sake of esthetics. The beauty of the web is that the next service or
shop is only a few clicks away. Anyone using a web site to generate
revenue who favours their aesthetic preference over turnover is a fool.
Your arguments are getting sloppy. The whole point of the compromise is
to please MOST of the visitors instead of catering to the minority. Redo
your logic.
Anyone using a website to provide information that is more or less
unique like governmental sites often has an obligation to make it
accessible to the widest possible audience.
I agree, and therefore such pages should be as readable as possible for
all potential visitors including options for printable pages. They
should be audio renderable as well as serve the information to deaf
people. A very nice exception to the rule.
kchayka wrote: Els wrote:
Then you haven't looked at my site. 100% Verdana ;-)
No, I see 100% Arial. Which is ugly, IMO.
I sometimes consider uninstalling Arial because I'm sick of looking at
it on web pages.
If you find Arial so ugly, why don't you install Verdana? Or set a
user stylesheet with the font you like?
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Els wrote: Ståle Sæbøe wrote:
Els wrote:
Martin Bialasinski wrote:
It is OK to define Verdana as the font face, as the body font size is
set to 100%. And I have not seen a page doing this. They all scale
Verdana down.
Then you haven't looked at my site. 100% Verdana ;-)
Mine too! :)
But where is it?
Oh :)
I guess its not really a site yet :) http://80.202.168.171/sandbox/
Els wrote: Blinky the Shark wrote:
Els wrote:
Martin Bialasinski wrote:
It is OK to define Verdana as the font face, as the body font size is
set to 100%. And I have not seen a page doing this. They all scale
Verdana down.
Then you haven't looked at my site. 100% Verdana ;-)
Els, you forgot to set the background of the header to fixed :)
Ståle Sæbøe wrote: Els, you forgot to set the background of the header to fixed :)
Wrong assumption ;-)
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