I have a web application that will generate a web page and tuck it in a top secret location on the server. I need a Windows XP box to be able to run a program in the background to check to see if the page is there and fetch this page from the server and print it on the Windows printer. It should poll the server every minute or two.
XP Pro is available but would rather it run on XP Home. The page is located in an unpublished area of the server but does not need to be secured. The page would be html, text only for now, but I could tolerate plain text (for now).
If this was a 'nix box, I could use a shell script and wget and write a script in 10 lines to do this but none of that is installed on Windows. I reeeaaaallly don't want to have to install anything on the Windows box to do that so I'm wondering if there is an equivalent scripting method that would work with something in Windows and do what I want.
From googling a little, all I see is everything done in VB. I reeeaallly don't want to have to learn VB to do what should be a trivial task, and I'm concerned what I would have to download and install just to develop the code.
Can someone give me a clue, please?
Send me the code.
It's URGENT!!!
;)
20  5298  Nepomuk 3,112
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Luckily, MS seems to have realised how powerful the unix shell and how lame theirs is. So, they developed the Windows PowerShell which can downloaded for free. OK, you preferred to install nothing, but I think you may want to change your mind for this. The syntax seems to be quite similar to that in bash, so you should find your way around it quickly.
Send me the code.
It's URGENT!!!
;)
OK, because it's you. Here are two versions of wget for the PowerShell: simple version and more powerful version. ^^
Greetings,
Nepomuk
**sigh**
More to learn.
Or not.
I saw the PowerShell thing yesterday and thought it was an editor. I also see it's hooked in with .NET and you must(?) learn some of the .NET stuff.
The decision is between learning that or installing Windows on a box, downloading the PlatformSDK and coding in Win32, something I have experience with. I don't want to do either but feel more comfortable doing the latter. I'm also concerned that forcing customers to install PowerShell just to run my little script would be highly inconvenient.
And I'm looking at 10 lines of code in 'nix and I'd be done right now. People wonder why I feel the way I do about Windows.
 Nepomuk 3,112
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I just thought some more and remembered Cygwin. It basically gives you a unix-like command line for Windows and it runs bash (and some other shells too), so no need for relearning. However you'd still have to install something.
Is there a way around that? Maybe - with win-bash for example, which is a port of an old version of bash. You don't have to install it, just copy the exe somewhere. If you want to load it from the windows command line, put the place that exe is in in the Path variable. I've never tested it, but it sounds good, right?
There are similar projects like GNU BASH For Windows, GNU utilities for Win32, MinGW and probably many more. I don't know which of these have to be installed and which don't, but maybe you can tell us more soon? ^^
Oh, maybe just downloading wget for Windows will do the job too - it all depends on the script you want to write.
And I'm looking at 10 lines of code in 'nix and I'd be done right now. People wonder why I feel the way I do about Windows.
Believe me, I can understand your frustration. Since I've been using Linux, I feel very limited every time I use a Windows machine.
Greetings,
Nepomuk
Yes, I've used cygwin but there, again, I'd have to install it. I'm also wondering if it might conflict with Win networking.
Does anyone happen to know if VB.NET is installed by default with .NET or Windows itself? I'm wondering if I might find someone to write this simple script for me.
As I was typing this, I was thinking whether Firefox and Prism (or is it Weave?) could do this. It interacts with web apps and is standalone from the browser and a smaller footprint. But I don't know if it could print. Of course, then I'd have to learn how to use it but that would be far more useful than VB.NET.
Nepomuk 3,112
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Does anyone happen to know if VB.NET is installed by default with .NET or Windows itself? I'm wondering if I might find someone to write this simple script for me.
As I understand it (and I don't know much about .NET) all .NET languages are translated to a common byte code language, so it doesn't matter which .NET language a program was written in, if the Framework is installed, you can run it.
Greetings,
Nepomuk
I know that but is vb.net installed automagically on all systems?
Right before I went to bed, I saw an article talking about VBScript. I'm wondering if that's on all systems. I don't think it needs .NET and it looks basic enough.
Hello,
Right before I went to bed, I saw an article talking about VBScript. I'm wondering if that's on all systems. I don't think it needs .NET and it looks basic enough.
I dont know much about VB or .NET but I am sure that VBscript is available on all the systems and it doesnot needs .NET.
In wikipedia's words:
VBScript is installed by default in every desktop release of Microsoft Windows since Windows 98,[1] and may or may not be included with Windows CE depending on the configuration and purpose of the device it is running on.
A VBScript script must be executed within a host environment, of which there are several provided on a standard install of Microsoft Windows (Windows Script Host, Internet Explorer). Additionally, The VBScript hosting environment is embeddable in other programs, through technologies such as the Microsoft Script control (msscript.ocx).
Hope this helps....
AmbrNewlearner
If you're into scripting, VBScript would be the way to go. Probably won't be all that difficult, but I'm not a scripting kind of person.
On the other hand, if you're a programmer, and you have Visual Studio, you could write a windows service pretty quickly. Then you wouldn't have to worry about scheduling the script to run.
From what I have experience with, the second is easier, but if you don't have a working knowledge of .NET, (which should be installed in either SP2 or SP3 by default) then I would go with the first.
OK, so now I know VBScript is what I can use. Back to the original question:
I have a web application that will generate a web page and tuck it in a top secret location on the server. I need a Windows XP box to be able to run a program in the background to check to see if the page is there and fetch this page from the server and print it on the Windows printer. It should poll the server every minute or two. XP Pro is available but would rather it run on XP Home. The page is located in an unpublished area of the server but does not need to be secured. The page would be html, text only for now, but I could tolerate plain text (for now).
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