List of KNOWN VS2005/Vista issues.......

[Jim Hubbard]

(I know this is a great big newsgroup no-no, but I originally only posted to
microsoft.publi c.dotnet.genera l and that newsgroup doesn't seem to have near
the readership of these - so I thought I'd also post this info here for the
benefit of the greater dotnet programming community.)

Well, after looking at this list, I'm thinking of staying with XP/VS2005 for
a while longer. At least until SP2 is out and Vista has been burped a few
times.

Here's the link to the list of KNOWN woes that await MS developers on Vista.

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/aa964140.aspx

And don't forget to review
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/howtobu...tasupport.mspx for the SQL
Server 2005 / Vista KNOWN issues also.

Is there any wonder fewer and fewer people are choosing programming as a
career?

[Jim Hubbard]

"Jim Hubbard" <ji*@privateadd ress.netwrote in message
news:9B******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...

(I know this is a great big newsgroup no-no, but I originally only posted
to microsoft.publi c.dotnet.genera l and that newsgroup doesn't seem to have
near the readership of these - so I thought I'd also post this info here
for the benefit of the greater dotnet programming community.)

Well, after looking at this list, I'm thinking of staying with XP/VS2005
for
a while longer. At least until SP2 is out and Vista has been burped a few
times.

Here's the link to the list of KNOWN woes that await MS developers on
Vista.

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/aa964140.aspx

And don't forget to review
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/howtobu...tasupport.mspx for the SQL
Server 2005 / Vista KNOWN issues also.

Is there any wonder fewer and fewer people are choosing programming as a
career?

Thanks to Spam Catcher for submitting the following in another thread.....

"Visual Studio on Windows Vista

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/aa948853.aspx

I would avoid using VS.NET on Vista until VS.NET 2005 SP1 Update for
Windows Vista is final."

Jim

[Bruno van Dooren [MVP VC++]]

I would avoid using VS.NET on Vista until VS.NET 2005 SP1 Update for

Windows Vista is final."

That has been released some time ago. more than a month in any case.
And I think this has zilch to do with people choosing a career in
programming or not.

Though I have to admit I am pleasantly surprised that the original post was
not accompanied by a 'linux is perfect' manifesto.

--

Kind regards,
Bruno van Dooren
br************* *********@hotma il.com
Remove only "_nos_pam"

[Eberhard Schefold]

Bruno van Dooren [MVP VC++] wrote:

>I would avoid using VS.NET on Vista until VS.NET 2005 SP1 Update for
Windows Vista is final."

That has been released some time ago. more than a month in any case.

I seem to have missed something.

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/bb265237.aspx

"For developers using Visual Studio 2005 on Windows Vista, Microsoft
is in current development on an update to Service Pack 1 called the
‘Visual Studio 2005 SP1 Vista Refresh Beta’. This update builds on the
improvements made in SP1 and delivers a first class experience for
developers wanting to take advantages of the new features in Windows
Vista. The Visual Studio 2005 SP1 Update for Windows Vista is expected
to ship after the consumer availability of Windows Vista in Q1 of 2007
and is now available in beta."

If you have other information, I'd be most happy to hear it.

And I think this has zilch to do with people choosing a career in
programming or not.

Though I have to admit I am pleasantly surprised that the original post was
not accompanied by a 'linux is perfect' manifesto.

My own impression is that arrogant attitudes can be found among
supporters of any OS.

[Bruno van Dooren [MVP VC++]]

>>I would avoid using VS.NET on Vista until VS.NET 2005 SP1 Update for

>>Windows Vista is final."

That has been released some time ago. more than a month in any case.

I seem to have missed something.

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/bb265237.aspx

My bad. I assumed that SP1 is also SP1 for Vista, which it is, except that
the SP1 that you now install on vista is not 'SP1 Update for vista' Maybe
SP2 would have been a better name...

>And I think this has zilch to do with people choosing a career in
programming or not.

Though I have to admit I am pleasantly surprised that the original post
was not accompanied by a 'linux is perfect' manifesto.

My own impression is that arrogant attitudes can be found among supporters
of any OS.

True.
It wasn't my intention to be arrogant, and I am sorry if I appeared that
way.
But from time to time, there are posts about how we are all stupid for using
Windows / VC and that linux / gcc would save the world if we were willing to
free us from the yada yada yada.

Which is why I sometimes get ticked off about these kinds of posts.
These forums are supposed to be about programming and helping each other.
Starting threads like this has no point whatsoever. They can only raise
ideological debates, possibly ending with harsh words.
There are far more appropriate places for holding such debates.

--

Kind regards,
Bruno van Dooren
br************* *********@hotma il.com
Remove only "_nos_pam"

[aaron.kempf]

no doubt-- I totally agree about the wonder

the bottom line is that those dipshits don't understand that VB6 works
on _EVERY_OPERATIN G_SYSTEM_EVER_

whereas VB 2002, 2003 and 2005 will only ever work on _TWO_ operating
systems; but you've got to download a whole bunch of crap first

I fully agree; I call for the head of the idiot that made Vista VB6
compatible but not VB 2002, 2003 or 2005 compatabile.

I call for their immediate resignation.
It's RIDICULOUS.

-Aaron

On Jan 28, 5:56 pm, "Jim Hubbard" <j...@privatead dress.netwrote:

(I know this is a great big newsgroup no-no, but I originally only posted to
microsoft.publi c.dotnet.genera l and that newsgroup doesn't seem to have near
the readership of these - so I thought I'd also post this info here for the
benefit of the greater dotnet programming community.)

Well, after looking at this list, I'm thinking of staying with XP/VS2005 for
a while longer. At least until SP2 is out and Vista has been burped a few
times.

Here's the link to the list of KNOWN woes that await MS developers on Vista.

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/aa964140.aspx

And don't forget to reviewhttp://www.microsoft.c om/sql/howtobuy/windowsvistasup port.mspxfor the SQL
Server 2005 / Vista KNOWN issues also.

Is there any wonder fewer and fewer people are choosing programming as a
career?

[aaron.kempf]

On Jan 29, 6:25 am, "Bruno van Dooren [MVP VC++]"
<bruno_nos_pam_ van_doo...@hotm ail.comwrote:

I would avoid using VS.NET on Vista until VS.NET 2005 SP1 Update for
Windows Vista is final."That has been released some time ago. more than a month in any case.

And I think this has zilch to do with people choosing a career in
programming or not.

Though I have to admit I am pleasantly surprised that the original post was
not accompanied by a 'linux is perfect' manifesto.

--

Kind regards,
Bruno van Dooren
bruno_nos_pam_v an_doo...@hotma il.com
Remove only "_nos_pam"

[aaron.kempf]

bruno

started threads like this _DOES_ have a point.

I'm sorry that the manufacturer of your IDE is too fucking stupid to
make VS 2002, 2003 and 2005 work everywhere.

VB6 works everywhere; thats' why I still use it.

Just because you're the fucking retard that used C++ does that mean
that we're all a bunch of retards?

C++ died about a decade ago, why don't you STFU and go to your gay c++
newsgroup

-Aaron

On Jan 29, 10:04 am, "Bruno van Dooren [MVP VC++]"
<bruno_nos_pam_ van_doo...@hotm ail.comwrote:

>I would avoid using VS.NET on Vista until VS.NET 2005 SP1 Update for
Windows Vista is final."

That has been released some time ago. more than a month in any case.

I seem to have missed something.

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vst...b265237.aspxMy bad. I assumed that SP1 is also SP1 for Vista, which it is, except that

the SP1 that you now install on vista is not 'SP1 Update for vista' Maybe
SP2 would have been a better name...

And I think this has zilch to do with people choosing a career in
programming or not.

Though I have to admit I am pleasantly surprised that the original post
was not accompanied by a 'linux is perfect' manifesto.

My own impression is that arrogant attitudes can be found among supporters
of any OS.True.

It wasn't my intention to be arrogant, and I am sorry if I appeared that
way.
But from time to time, there are posts about how we are all stupid for using
Windows / VC and that linux / gcc would save the world if we were willing to
free us from the yada yada yada.

Which is why I sometimes get ticked off about these kinds of posts.
These forums are supposed to be about programming and helping each other.
Starting threads like this has no point whatsoever. They can only raise
ideological debates, possibly ending with harsh words.
There are far more appropriate places for holding such debates.

--

Kind regards,
Bruno van Dooren
bruno_nos_pam_v an_doo...@hotma il.com
Remove only "_nos_pam"

[aaron.kempf]

these posts are where we are all supposed to build a consensus-- that
Microsoft is TOO BUSY BUILDING XBOXES to take VS SERIOUSLY.

SCREW MICROSOFT

-Aaron

[Peri]

On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 15:25:15 +0100, Bruno van Dooren [MVP VC++]
<br************ **********@hotm ail.comwrote:

That has been released some time ago. more than a month in any case.

Can you provide a link to page describing what it fixes for .NET C#
programmer?
I could only find fixes for C++.

--
Peri