First of all, I'm an Asian and I need to input Japanese, Korean and so
on. I've tried many PHP IDEs today, but almost non of them supported
Unicode (UTF-8) file.
I've found that the only Unicode support IDEs are DreamWeaver 8 and
Zend PHP Studio.
DreamWeaver provides full support for Unicode. However, DreamWeaver is
a web editor rather than a PHP IDE. It only supports basic IntelliSense
(or code completion) and doesn't have anything like a class view.
Zend PHP Studio supports Unicode but have many problems. It couldn't
display Korean when I set a Japanese font for the editor, and couldn't
display Japanese when I set a Korean font for the editor. The most
obvious problem is it's too slow. It provides really good support for
coding like class view, debugging and advanced IntelliSense, but it's
too slow for my PC.
I think you're PHP professinals. What do you use for PHP development?
I'd like to hear from you. Thanks.
121  10111  ty*******@gmail .com wrote: I think you're PHP professinals. What do you use for PHP development?
I'd like to hear from you. Thanks.
I'm not using an IDE, EditPlus is all I need. But if I would want to use an
IDE, I would go for Eclipse.
JW ty*******@gmail .com wrote: I think you're PHP professinals. What do you use for PHP development?
I'd like to hear from you. Thanks.
I use gPHPEdit( www.gphpedit.org), but then I would - I'm the author of it!
That won't help you though as it doesn't work under Windows (yet,
someone is giving porting a go). It also doesn't have debugging
support, but it does have integrated help (using PHP HTML docs) and a
class browser.
Cheers,
Andy
So you don't use an IDE but just a text editor? Well, many computer
gurus did like that in the past, but doesn't it take too much time for
a novice like to remember all the members and functions or look them up
in the manual? I think code completion and class view really helps
people like me.
Janwillem Borleffs wrote: ty*******@gmail .com wrote: I think you're PHP professinals. What do you use for PHP development?
I'd like to hear from you. Thanks.
I'm not using an IDE, EditPlus is all I need. But if I would want to use an
IDE, I would go for Eclipse.
JW ty*******@gmail .com wrote: So you don't use an IDE but just a text editor? Well, many computer
gurus did like that in the past, but doesn't it take too much time for
a novice like to remember all the members and functions or look them
up in the manual? I think code completion and class view really helps
people like me.
True, but OTOH, code completion makes people lazy. Text editors force you to
remember functions, which I think is a benefit.
JW
Janwillem Borleffs said the following on 23/10/2005 17:06: ty*******@gmail .com wrote:
So you don't use an IDE but just a text editor? Well, many computer
gurus did like that in the past, but doesn't it take too much time for
a novice like to remember all the members and functions or look them
up in the manual? I think code completion and class view really helps
people like me.
True, but OTOH, code completion makes people lazy. Text editors force you to
remember functions, which I think is a benefit.
Are you serious?? ;)
Where's the benefit in having to remember the exact syntax for
hundreds/thousands of functions?
That's just a massive pain in the arse, and surely must slow you down
considerably, especially when you only find you made a mistake at
run-time... You might as well be programming in assembler if you like it
raw! :)
Admittedly, the benefit of class-views etc. must be somewhat limited for
a dynamically-typed language like PHP. But in strongly-typed languages
like C++, C# or Java that have *massive* APIs, intellisense and
class-views etc. are an absolute god-send.
IMO, being a good programmer is not about knowing the fine details of
the language syntax; syntax is just a means to an end.
--
Oli
Oli Filth wrote: Janwillem Borleffs said the following on 23/10/2005 17:06:
Are you serious?? ;)
Where's the benefit in having to remember the exact syntax for
hundreds/thousands of functions?
That's just a massive pain in the arse, and surely must slow you down
considerably, especially when you only find you made a mistake at
run-time... You might as well be programming in assembler if you like it
raw! :)
Admittedly, the benefit of class-views etc. must be somewhat limited for
a dynamically-typed language like PHP. But in strongly-typed languages
like C++, C# or Java that have *massive* APIs, intellisense and
class-views etc. are an absolute god-send.
IMO, being a good programmer is not about knowing the fine details of
the language syntax; syntax is just a means to an end.
I'm with Janwillem on this. I use a text editor. I have no problems
remembering function names, parameters, etc. And if I do, the only help
is only a click away.
I've tried other IDEs which provide code completion, etc. I find they
slow me down.
--
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Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp. js*******@attgl obal.net
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I use PHPEdit from www.waterprrof.fr. It is free for personal use.
--
Tony Marston http://www.tonymarston.net
"Janwillem Borleffs" <jw@jwscripts.c om> wrote in message
news:43******** *************** @news.euronet.n l... ty*******@gmail .com wrote: I think you're PHP professinals. What do you use for PHP development?
I'd like to hear from you. Thanks.
I'm not using an IDE, EditPlus is all I need. But if I would want to use
an IDE, I would go for Eclipse.
JW
I just use pico and google. For web software I find it easier to code
seperate scripts to do different things rather than mass everything
into one large script. Since each script is only a few hundred lines
and long and is independent of other scrtips, pico and google work fine
for me!
> but doesn't it take too much time for a novice like to remember all the members and functions or look them up in the manual?
Provided your manual is in an electronic format, for example
this one:
http://www.zeusedit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9
it should be easy enough to have your editor/ide integrate
with the manual, making it possible to search the manual
with a single key press and have the results displayed in
an instant.
I think code completion and class view really helps
people like me.
Zeus for Windows offers the speed of a text editor with IDE
features like class browsing, syntax highlighting, code
folding etc: http://www.zeusedit.com/php.html
Jussi Jumppanen
Author: Zeus for Windows
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