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Your Guru Paul Graham is getting trashed on Slashdot.

After writing an article trashing java, and C++, notable LISP guru
Paul Graham is getting roasted on slashdot. Apart from AutoCAD and
Emacs, what has LISP done anyway? Most real work is done in C++ or C
in the case of systems development. Perl is useful, but only for
dynamic web content or simple sysadmin scripts. Most slashdotters
think the same!

Some are comparing Graham to Eric S. Raymond for his snobery. LISP's
era ended when MIT's AI Lab threw out their LISP machines for SUN
workstations!

(Pauls-article-here(http://www.paulgraham.com/gh.html))
Jul 17 '05
11 3101
Jim <zm*******@yaho o.com> writes:

[...]
Why isn't Kawa (The Java-based Scheme) discussed or linked in your
experience & article?

http://www.gnu.org/software/kawa/


Kawa is an implementation of scheme.

A more relevant mention would be of Armed Bear Lisp,
<http://www.cliki.net/Armed%20Bear%20 Lisp>, which is an implementation
of Common Lisp on JVMs. Oddly, it seems to be carefully hidden inside
an editor: <http://armedbear-j.sourceforge.n et/> doesn't really
advertise the Common Lisp implementation.
Jul 17 '05 #11

Jim wrote:
Pascal Costanza wrote:
...
I have used Java for seven years, switched to Common Lisp about two
years ago, and have reported my experience at
http://www.pascalcostanza.de/lisp/guide.html

All I can say is that he is right wrt Java. I don't care what other
people think. I am so much more productive with Common Lisp, so why
should I?

I don't know enough about the other mentioned languages to be able to
comment on them.


Why isn't Kawa (The Java-based Scheme) discussed or linked in your
experience & article?


....because I checked out both Scheme and Common Lisp, and find Common
Lisp much better (hence "opinionate d"). It's more pragmatic, more
complete, and more convenient to program in in my experience. YMMV.

There's also Armed Bear Common Lisp, implemented on top of the JVM, BTW.
However, it's still in a very early stage, AFAICT.
Pascal

--
Tyler: "How's that working out for you?"
Jack: "Great."
Tyler: "Keep it up, then."
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