Hi there,
I have this web site ( www.DrTube.com) which has the following DTD:
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
which switches Mozilla to standards compliance mode as I can confirm
myself. How can I check whether IE6 and Opera do so too?
TIA
Regards
Xavier van Unen. 35  5187 
Dr.Tube wrote: Hi there,
I have this web site (www.DrTube.com) which has the following DTD:
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
which switches Mozilla to standards compliance mode as I can confirm
myself. How can I check whether IE6 and Opera do so too?
TIA
Regards
Xavier van Unen.
Try entering javascript :aler t(document.comp atMode) in the URL area.
You should get CSS1Compat if it's in standards mode, or BackCompat if in
quirks.
Dr.Tube wrote: Hi there,
I have this web site (www.DrTube.com) which has the following DTD:
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
which switches Mozilla to standards compliance mode as I can confirm
myself. How can I check whether IE6 and Opera do so too?
Look up the table on Eric Meyer's website [1]. According to Eric's
table, it should be in standard's compliant mode. I recommend just
using XHTML 1.0 Strict, and it will always be in standard's compliant
mode for every browser.
[1] http://www.ericmeyeroncss.com/bonus/render-mode.html
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I recommend just
using XHTML 1.0 Strict, and it will always be in standard's compliant
mode for every browser.
That's assuming you're sending it as application/xhtml+xml. If you send it
as text/html (which the majority of people do, due to lacking browser
support), quirks mode still exists.
Regards,
Geoff
Hi Keith, I have this web site (www.DrTube.com) which has the following DTD:
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
which switches Mozilla to standards compliance mode as I can
confirm myself. How can I check whether IE6 and Opera do so too?
Try entering javascript:aler t(document.comp atMode) in the URL area.
You should get CSS1Compat if it's in standards mode, or BackCompat
if in quirks.
Whoa, that should have taken some digging in all sorts of MS knowledge
bases... You wouldn't by any chance have a link to a MS knowledge base
or something similar on this subect so that I can read up on this?
Thanx.
Xavier
Geoff Ball wrote: That's assuming you're sending it as application/xhtml+xml. If you send it
as text/html (which the majority of people do, due to lacking browser
support), quirks mode still exists.
Well, although it is not parsed as XML when served as text/html, it
is still rendered in standards compliant mode in all modern browsers.
Also, many people serve it as text/html because they either don't have
the ability to set up content negotiation on the server (like my website
at the moment), or they lack the knowledge to do so.
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Lachlan Hunt wrote: Geoff Ball wrote:
That's assuming you're sending it as application/xhtml+xml. If you
send it as text/html (which the majority of people do, due to lacking
browser support), quirks mode still exists.
many people serve it as text/html because they either don't have the
ability to set up content negotiation on the server (like my website at
the moment), or they lack the knowledge to do so.
Then why use xhtml at all? HTML is a better choice for most authors.
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Brian wrote: Then why use xhtml at all? HTML is a better choice for most authors.
Currently, there is no major benefit for the client to have XHTML 1.0
Strict over HTML 4.01 Strict when the document only contains HTML
markup. I don't have a problem with someone using HTML 4.01 Strict, as
long as they do it correctly and it validates. However, I choose to,
and recommend others do use XHTML because it forces the very good XML
habbits of always explicitly closing every element, quoting every
attribute value, etc.... Also, using XHTML allows authors to embed
other XML languages such as RDF, MathML, SVG, etc... (which will have a
lot more benefit when UA support for those languages improves)
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Lachlan Hunt <la**********@l achy.id.au.upda te.virus.scanne rs> wrote: However, I choose to,
and recommend others do use XHTML because it forces the very good XML
habbits of always explicitly closing every element, quoting every
attribute value, etc....
XHTML doesn't force authors to do anything. If you are talking about
validation, you can get error prompts for unclosed non empty elements
with HTML by a minor modification of the DTD.
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Spartanicus wrote: XHTML doesn't force authors to do anything.
XHTML does force you to close elements and quote all attribute
values, specify an XML namespace, and every other XML rule, unless
you're writing invalid markup. Sure, browsers will still render it,
without throwing an error when served as text/html, but try serving
invalid XHTML as application/xhtml+xml to mozilla or any other UA that
correcly supports it, and you'll get an XML well-formedness error message.
If you are talking about validation, you can get error prompts for unclosed non empty elements
with HTML by a minor modification of the DTD.
What's the point? Even if that were possible, XHTML already has the
DTD and XML rules specified to ensure that.
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