Is there some way --using, say, DOM or javascript-- to detect the
current pixel width and/or height of a relatively sized table or of
one of its columns or rows. I'm going to be writing javascript to
adjust my page to the viewer's browser window dimensions and this
would sure be great information to have.
Thanks ....
Dennis
Jul 20 '05
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Dennis wrote:
The problem of getting multiple columns of text in the
viewport (that prompted me to start this thread) has led me to decide
on using Flash as my main medium.
You're kidding, right?
I think Flash will do what CSS is
too immature to yet do.
Hmm. Maybe you're actually serious.
Now, when CSS "catches up", it will surpass Flash
They are not competing technologies.
if you were to use Flash, you'd
know at every moment the height and width of the viewer's browser
window. So you could either just download the image that best fits
their screen or let the Flash player scale whatever size image you
use.
Yep, you are serious. Well, that's a swell "solution." A site
presented in Flash is my cue to hit the back button. I suppose I
ought to thank Macromedia for saving me the trouble of messing with
the site any more than that. I see that "get the plug-in" window, and
it's alt-left arrow, and onto something worth my time.
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Dennis wrote:
The problem of getting multiple columns of text in the
viewport (that prompted me to start this thread) has led me to decide
on using Flash as my main medium.
You have decided that this look you envision is more important than
usability and accessibility? Just what we need, another unusable Flash
site. <heavy sigh>
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In article <62************ *************** *****@4ax.com> in
comp.infosystem s. www.authoring.html, Dennis
<theonlyDennis@ removeForSpam_m indspring.com> wrote: The problem of getting multiple columns of text in the
viewport (that prompted me to start this thread) has led me to decide
on using Flash as my main medium. I think Flash will do what CSS is
too immature to yet do.
It will, for people who have Flash installed and turned on.
Many people don't have it installed; many who do have it installed
have turned it off because so much Flash is just annoying time-
wasting "kewl" visual effect.
So your choice by using Flash is for complete success or complete
failure, as opposed to 100% success or partial success if you don't
use Flash.
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On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:24:48 GMT, Brian
<us*****@mangym utt.com.invalid-remove-this-part> wrote: Dennis wrote:
The problem of getting multiple columns of text in the
viewport (that prompted me to start this thread) has led me to decide
on using Flash as my main medium.
You're kidding, right?
I think Flash will do what CSS is
too immature to yet do.
Hmm. Maybe you're actually serious.
Now, when CSS "catches up", it will surpass Flash
They are not competing technologies.
if you were to use Flash, you'd
know at every moment the height and width of the viewer's browser
window. So you could either just download the image that best fits
their screen or let the Flash player scale whatever size image you
use.
Yep, you are serious. Well, that's a swell "solution." A site
presented in Flash is my cue to hit the back button. I suppose I
ought to thank Macromedia for saving me the trouble of messing with
the site any more than that. I see that "get the plug-in" window, and
it's alt-left arrow, and onto something worth my time.
Look at your words carefully. Your only criticism of Flash is that
you don't like it and avoid it. That's hardly a "criticism" , or maybe
you are just venting your feelings. Sorry I upset you.
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:26:10 -0500, kchayka <kc*********@si hope.com>
wrote: You have decided that this look you envision is more important than
usability and accessibility?
No. I am doing it in Flash precisely for usability. A page is more
usable if the user can see at a glance where everything is and not
have to scroll around to find it. And steps can be taken to make it
also accessible.
Just what we need, another unusable Flash
site. <heavy sigh>
This reminds me of Emerson's comment, "Foolish consistency is the
hobgoblin of little minds." Take out the question-begging word
"foolish" and it loses its force. Take out "unusable" from your
comment and it too loses its force.
Dennis
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:50:26 -0400, Stan Brown
<th************ @fastmail.fm> wrote: It will, for people who have Flash installed and turned on.
Many people don't have it installed; many who do have it installed
have turned it off because so much Flash is just annoying time-
wasting "kewl" visual effect.
So your choice by using Flash is for complete success or complete
failure, as opposed to 100% success or partial success if you don't
use Flash.
Something like 97% of web surfers out there do. And those few who
don't can easily get it. End of problem.
Dennis
"Dennis" <theonlyDennis@ removeForSpam_m indspring.com> wrote in message
news:si******** *************** *********@4ax.c om... On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:26:10 -0500, kchayka <kc*********@si hope.com>
wrote:
You have decided that this look you envision is more important than
usability and accessibility?
No. I am doing it in Flash precisely for usability. A page is more
usable if the user can see at a glance where everything is and not
have to scroll around to find it. And steps can be taken to make it
also accessible.
You obviously don't have the slightest clue about what usability is.
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At times one remains faithful to a cause only because its opponents do not
cease to be insipid.
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Dennis <theonlyDennis@ removeForSpam_m indspring.com> exclaimed in <si************ *************** *****@4ax.com>: No. I am doing it in Flash precisely for usability. A page is more
usable if the user can see at a glance where everything is and not
have to scroll around to find it. And steps can be taken to make it
You are right; a page is more usable if the user can see at a glance
where everything is and not have to scroll around it.
Your mistake is making the assumption that you are able to ensure that
this is the case.
Your job is making sure the document itself can adapt to the users
situation. Assuming you know anything at all regarding said situation
is arrogant and a pointless waste of time.
Naturally, the choice of what to do is up to you.
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Dennis <theonlyDennis@ removeForSpam_m indspring.com> exclaimed in <52************ *************** *****@4ax.com>: Something like 97% of web surfers out there do. And those few who
don't can easily get it. End of problem.
Flash is not available for all users or all UAs. Depending on it is
not useful.
Of course, with the arrogance your posting shows, "useful" wouldn't
be your first priority.
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Dennis wrote:
Something like 97% of web surfers out there do.
Source, please. Or did you just make this up?
And those few who don't can easily get it.
If it's available, they can consider getting it. Whether they
actually go to the trouble of downloading and installing software for
your content is another matter.
End of problem.
Keep deluding yourself.
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