Every respected Web-authoring Guru says that.
This is the era of table-less design, CSS code, XHTML compliant
websites.
Separate layout from content.
There's no reason to use tables any more.
Everything can be done with CSS.
Tables are so 2002ish ...
Do you agree with that?
I don't.
I've run into many situations where I just couldn't achieve the
desired effect in different browsers without using tables.
But it could be that I'm not well versed on the intricacies of CSS ...
Nov 3 '07
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And lo, Matt didst speak in a-buncha-groups:
those born profoundly death may not have learned a
spoken language
I don't think those people are even able to worry about website
accessibility.. .
Grey
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"Chaddy2222 " <sp************ ***********@yah oo.com.auwrote in message
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paul watt wrote:
>"Chaddy2222 " <sp************ ***********@yah oo.com.auwrote in message
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>
Heidi wrote:
Chaddy2222 wrote:
: It was a template I developed for my own sites.
: http://freewebdesign.awardspace.biz now is useing it.
: It should look a lot better as I changed a lot of things in the CSS.
I hope you can take constructive criticism...
The flash thingy for your portfolio is annoying. Why does the text
have
to
flip, roll, spin, or bounce oddly into place?
Heidi
Hmmm do you think it would look better if they all (meaning the text)
came in the same way? I believe I was thinking of doing that first.
Hey Chad,
How ya doing mate?
<snip>
Hay again Paul, I am doing quite well. I finished my final Uni exam
for the year today (well yesterday now I guess.
I am also working on a re-design of the Web Design Tips Online
project, soon to be officially launched.
I am also launching my new domain name on Monday
(freewebdesigno nline.org).
How are you going anyway, have you got more business yet?.
i'm not doing bad thanks, got a bit of buisness, just done a freebie for my
sister and i've got something else in the pipe line. I've had to take a full
time job but thats ok
--
Paul Watt http://www.paulwattdesigns.com
paul watt wrote:
"Chaddy2222 " <sp************ ***********@yah oo.com.auwrote in message
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paul watt wrote:
"Chaddy2222 " <sp************ ***********@yah oo.com.auwrote in message
news:11******** **************@ e34g2000pro.goo glegroups.com.. .
Heidi wrote:
Chaddy2222 wrote:
: It was a template I developed for my own sites.
: http://freewebdesign.awardspace.biz now is useing it.
: It should look a lot better as I changed a lot of things in the CSS.
I hope you can take constructive criticism...
The flash thingy for your portfolio is annoying. Why does the text
have
to
flip, roll, spin, or bounce oddly into place?
Heidi
Hmmm do you think it would look better if they all (meaning the text)
came in the same way? I believe I was thinking of doing that first.
Hey Chad,
How ya doing mate?
<snip>
Hay again Paul, I am doing quite well. I finished my final Uni exam
for the year today (well yesterday now I guess.
I am also working on a re-design of the Web Design Tips Online
project, soon to be officially launched.
I am also launching my new domain name on Monday
(freewebdesigno nline.org).
How are you going anyway, have you got more business yet?.
i'm not doing bad thanks, got a bit of buisness, just done a freebie for my
sister and i've got something else in the pipe line. I've had to take a full
time job but thats ok
Hmm it's a worry really.
But I am sure you know who to blaim for the lack of work, it's those
dam graphic designer hacks who think they can slap up pages and call
themselves a web designer.
They also charge very low rates.
BTW just a thaught have you considard buying ads in local newspapers
as well as web based (Google Add words) comes to mind.
--
Regards Chad. http://freewebdesign.awardspace.biz
On Nov 8, 2:26 pm, "paul watt" <p...@NOSPAMpau lwatt.infowrote :
"Chaddy2222 " <spamlovermailb ox-sicur...@yahoo. com.auwrote in message
news:11******** **************@ e34g2000pro.goo glegroups.com.. .
Heidi wrote:
Chaddy2222 wrote:
: It was a template I developed for my own sites.
:http://freewebdesign.awardspace.biz now is useing it.
: It should look a lot better as I changed a lot of things in the CSS.
I hope you can take constructive criticism...
The flash thingy for your portfolio is annoying. Why does the text have
to
flip, roll, spin, or bounce oddly into place?
Heidi
Hmmm do you think it would look better if they all (meaning the text)
came in the same way? I believe I was thinking of doing that first.
Hey Chad,
How ya doing mate? Why are you concentrating on flash?
"concentrat ing on Flash"???
Oh I see, it is a joke.
I get it now.
Very funny.
Hilarious, really, good one !!!
I thought that would
move you away from the accessable aspect of your philosophy?
Another joke, no doubt ...
GreyWyvern <sp**@greywyver n.comwrote:
>And lo, Matt didst speak in a-buncha-groups:
>those born profoundly death may not have learned a
spoken language
I don't think those people are even able to worry about website
accessibility. ..
Which illustrates perfectly the typical level of ignorance and bigotry
we have in the Western world.
I have two profoundly deaf chums. They smoke pot, drink too much beer,
fornicate, but communicate in sign language rather than English.
They're deaf, not stupid.
In short, like all disabled people they are the same as everyone else.
All the same, all different. They all need to make use of services, so
to bar them from your web site, doesn't make economic sense.
Matt
--
Author of The Probert Encyclopaedia http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com
Matt Probert wrote:
GreyWyvern <sp**@greywyver n.comwrote:
>>And lo, Matt didst speak in a-buncha-groups:
>>those born profoundly death may not have learned a
spoken language
I don't think those people are even able to worry about website
accessibility ...
Which illustrates perfectly the typical level of ignorance and bigotry
we have in the Western world.
And that illustrates how some people fail to read all the words
properly ;-)
--
Els http://locusmeus.com/
Matt Probert wrote:
"paul watt" <pa**@NOSPAMpau lwatt.infowrote :
Hey Chad,
How ya doing mate? Why are you concentrating on flash? I thought that would
move you away from the accessable aspect of your philosophy?
You may be considering accessible only through terms of visual
impairment. Children and possibly therefore those with learning
difficulties, often find pictures, and by extenson, Flash more
accessible than plain text.
That is quite true.
Similarly the deaf; those born profoundly death may not have learned a
spoken language (English, Spanish, German etc) toa high level, and as
such may find pictures easier to comprehend than written words.
Matt
BTW the main reason for doing my portfolio the way I did is mainly due
to the fact that it's just easier and you can do more visual effects
for that kind of stuff in F;lash then in HTML.
--
Regards Chad.
Chaddy2222 wrote:
BTW the main reason for doing my portfolio the way I did is mainly due
to the fact that it's just easier and you can do more visual effects
for that kind of stuff in F;lash then in HTML.
That's just the thing: your portfolio shows static sites. Why
shouldn't it just be a series of images with text? There is nothing
that Flashy effects could add to it. There is no interaction needed in
the portfolio as far as I can see, and the visual effects are just not
needed at all. They don't help convey your message, in fact quite the
opposite. If you want the slideshow, use unobtrusive JavaScript so
that a visitor without JavaScript can still browse it with regular
links, and those with JavaScript will get the slideshow bonus. (if it
is a bonus, but that's a matter of personal taste)
Just look at it from the potential customer's point of view: he's
blind, and is looking for someone who makes accessible websites.
Unfortunately he can't check out your accessible work, because you hid
it in inaccessible Flash. Tell me, does that make sense at all?
--
Els http://locusmeus.com/
And lo, Matt didst speak in a-buncha-groups:
GreyWyvern wrote:
>And lo, Matt didst speak in a-buncha-groups:
>>those born profoundly death may not have learned a
spoken language
I don't think those people are even able to worry about website
accessibility. ..
Which illustrates perfectly the typical level of ignorance and bigotry
we have in the Western world.
I forgive you.
Here, how's this for accessibiity? http://www.wmfs.net/wmfs/home.xtml?bhcp=1
If you put your mouse over the little woman, she signs the contents of the
page for deaf users...
....
....
!
Grey
--
The technical axiom that nothing is impossible sinisterly implies the
pitfall corollary that nothing is ridiculous.
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