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Is the end of HTML as we know it?

Every respected Web-authoring Guru says that.
This is the era of table-less design, CSS code, XHTML compliant
websites.
Separate layout from content.

There's no reason to use tables any more.
Everything can be done with CSS.
Tables are so 2002ish ...

Do you agree with that?
I don't.
I've run into many situations where I just couldn't achieve the
desired effect in different browsers without using tables.
But it could be that I'm not well versed on the intricacies of CSS ...

Nov 3 '07 #1
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"1001 Webs" <10******@gmail .comwrote in message
news:11******** **************@ 57g2000hsv.goog legroups.com...
Every respected Web-authoring Guru says that.
This is the era of table-less design, CSS code, XHTML compliant
websites.
Separate layout from content.

There's no reason to use tables any more.
Everything can be done with CSS.
Tables are so 2002ish ...

Do you agree with that?
I don't.
I've run into many situations where I just couldn't achieve the
desired effect in different browsers without using tables.
Sometimes the only way is to use a table. Sometimes. Only sometimes and only
for a very small part of a page.

One of those times is, of course, if one is offering up tabular data, which
point you seem to have missed.
But it could be that I'm not well versed on the intricacies of CSS ...
Given the site you offered up for review over at alt.html.critiq ue I would
have to agree with this.

--
Richard.
Nov 3 '07 #2
1001 Webs wrote:
Every respected Web-authoring Guru says that.
Really?
This is the era of table-less design, CSS code, XHTML compliant
websites.
Separate layout from content.
And guess what the content is marked up with? (Hint: HTML.) So either
you or whoever's prognostication s you're reading is confused.

Is there some reason you had to post this two five newsgroups?
Nov 3 '07 #3
On Nov 3, 3:35 pm, 1001 Webs <1001w...@gmail .comwrote:
Every respected Web-authoring Guru says that.
This is the era of table-less design, CSS code, XHTML compliant
websites.
Separate layout from content.

There's no reason to use tables any more.
Everything can be done with CSS.
Tables are so 2002ish ...

Do you agree with that?
I don't.
I've run into many situations where I just couldn't achieve the
desired effect in different browsers without using tables.
But it could be that I'm not well versed on the intricacies of CSS ...
Tables are the easiest
If you need something simple use tables

Nov 3 '07 #4

mic...@gmail.co m wrote:
On Nov 3, 3:35 pm, 1001 Webs <1001w...@gmail .comwrote:
Every respected Web-authoring Guru says that.
This is the era of table-less design, CSS code, XHTML compliant
websites.
Separate layout from content.

There's no reason to use tables any more.
Everything can be done with CSS.
Tables are so 2002ish ...

Do you agree with that?
I don't.
I've run into many situations where I just couldn't achieve the
desired effect in different browsers without using tables.
But it could be that I'm not well versed on the intricacies of CSS ...

Tables are the easiest
If you need something simple use tables
That's not true. CSS is simple and more powerfull then layout tables.
As an example check out this template I made.
http://freewebdesign.awardspace.biz/temp/template.html
--
Regards Chad. http://freewebdesign.awardspace.biz

Nov 3 '07 #5
mi****@gmail.co m wrote:
On Nov 3, 3:35 pm, 1001 Webs <1001w...@gmail .comwrote:
>Every respected Web-authoring Guru says that.
This is the era of table-less design, CSS code, XHTML compliant
websites.
Separate layout from content.

There's no reason to use tables any more.
Everything can be done with CSS.
Tables are so 2002ish ...

Do you agree with that?
I don't.
I've run into many situations where I just couldn't achieve the
desired effect in different browsers without using tables.
But it could be that I'm not well versed on the intricacies of CSS ...

Tables are the easiest
If you need something simple use tables
See if you feel that way after editing a site with a half dozen nested
tables with row and column spans...

--
Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
Nov 3 '07 #6
1001 Webs wrote:
>
There's no reason to use tables any more.
Do you agree with that?
yawn

This is a boring subject that is only brought up by clueless, lazy
people that haven't bothered reading the newsgroup archives.
I don't.
But it could be that I'm not well versed on the intricacies of CSS ...
indeed

--
Berg
Nov 3 '07 #7
1001 Webs <10******@gmail .comwrote:
>Every respected Web-authoring Guru says that.
This is the era of table-less design, CSS code, XHTML compliant
websites.
Separate layout from content.

There's no reason to use tables any more.
Everything can be done with CSS.
Tables are so 2002ish ...

Do you agree with that?
No. On two counts:

1) Not EVERY respected web-authoring guru says that, only some.
2) It's bollocks <g>

>I don't.
Ditto!
>I've run into many situations where I just couldn't achieve the
desired effect in different browsers without using tables.
But it could be that I'm not well versed on the intricacies of CSS ...
Tables are appropriate for table layouts. They also work great for
some other layouts.

CSS is a distinct and separate system for suggesting colours, sizes,
margins, paddings, line spacing. typefaces, and lots of other things.
CSS and tables are as distinct as beer and wine. One does not negate
the other.

X
Nov 3 '07 #8
Chaddy2222 <sp************ ***********@yah oo.com.auwrote:
>
mic...@gmail.c om wrote:
>On Nov 3, 3:35 pm, 1001 Webs <1001w...@gmail .comwrote:
Every respected Web-authoring Guru says that.
This is the era of table-less design, CSS code, XHTML compliant
websites.
Separate layout from content.

There's no reason to use tables any more.
Everything can be done with CSS.
Tables are so 2002ish ...

Do you agree with that?
I don't.
I've run into many situations where I just couldn't achieve the
desired effect in different browsers without using tables.
But it could be that I'm not well versed on the intricacies of CSS ...

Tables are the easiest
If you need something simple use tables
That's not true. CSS is simple and more powerfull then layout tables.
Rubbish!

Two columns, two rows, resizeable, cross browser compataible:

<table>
<tr>
<tdCell one</td>
<tdCell two</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<tdCell three</td>
<tdCell four</td>
</tr>
</table>

That's simplicity. It's also felxible.

CSS layout is a nightmare. Unreliable, not only because it's suggested
and not required, but also because it varies between browsers and runs
into problems with resizing.

X
Nov 3 '07 #9
Secret Agent X wrote:
Chaddy2222 <sp************ ***********@yah oo.com.auwrote:
>mic...@gmail.c om wrote:
>>On Nov 3, 3:35 pm, 1001 Webs <1001w...@gmail .comwrote:
Every respected Web-authoring Guru says that.
This is the era of table-less design, CSS code, XHTML compliant
websites.
Separate layout from content.

There's no reason to use tables any more.
Everything can be done with CSS.
Tables are so 2002ish ...

Do you agree with that?
I don't.
I've run into many situations where I just couldn't achieve the
desired effect in different browsers without using tables.
But it could be that I'm not well versed on the intricacies of CSS ...
Tables are the easiest
If you need something simple use tables
That's not true. CSS is simple and more powerfull then layout tables.

Rubbish!

Two columns, two rows, resizeable, cross browser compataible:

<table>
<tr>
<tdCell one</td>
<tdCell two</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<tdCell three</td>
<tdCell four</td>
</tr>
</table>

That's simplicity. It's also felxible.
Now let's see you make it fluid.
CSS layout is a nightmare. Unreliable, not only because it's suggested
and not required, but also because it varies between browsers and runs
into problems with resizing.

X
It's not a nightmare if you understand it. And if you want something to
look *exactly* like you design it, create a PDF. I'd prefer to have
fluid designs which adjust to the size of the user's window.

--
=============== ===
Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp.
js*******@attgl obal.net
=============== ===

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