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Is the end of HTML as we know it?

Every respected Web-authoring Guru says that.
This is the era of table-less design, CSS code, XHTML compliant
websites.
Separate layout from content.

There's no reason to use tables any more.
Everything can be done with CSS.
Tables are so 2002ish ...

Do you agree with that?
I don't.
I've run into many situations where I just couldn't achieve the
desired effect in different browsers without using tables.
But it could be that I'm not well versed on the intricacies of CSS ...

Nov 3 '07
136 4898
Tim Streater wrote:
In article <11************ **********@i13g 2000prf.googleg roups.com>,
Andy Dingley <di*****@codesm iths.comwrote:
>On 12 Nov, 15:56, Tim Streater <tim.strea...@d ante.org.ukwrot e:
>>In article <1194880439.017 332.232...@d55g 2000hsg.googleg roups.com>,
1001 Webs <1001w...@gmail .comwrote:

Neither XHTML nor JavaScript are required to design websites nowadays.
OK, so how do I do data validation based on user input?
It's not a _requirement_. You can still do it purely server-side,
which you ought to support as a fallback anyway for both security and
accessibilit y reasons.

Of more importance, actually, is the second question I asked, about
modifying one <selectbased on the results of another. In some cases I
use Javascript all by itself, when the contents of the select are
limited to a few values, and if, for example, the user choosing "A" in
<select1 means they must be prevented from choosing "B" in <select2.

Where I really need to restrict the contents of another <selectI put
it in an iFrame, which is passed the results of <select1 and then
displays <select2. I still have to use javaScript to ensure that the
iFrame <selectis passed a useful parameter and so displays right
subset of values.

My app simply doesn't scale without this sort of technique.

Which is why I complain when I see blanket statements like "JavaScript
is not required to design websites these days".
Tim,

You don't even need to use an iframe to do it. Works fine without one.

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Nov 12 '07 #131
On Nov 12, 11:14 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attg lobal.netwrote:
Tim Streater wrote:
In article <1194893219.052 938.123...@i13g 2000prf.googleg roups.com>,
Andy Dingley <ding...@codesm iths.comwrote:
On 12 Nov, 15:56, Tim Streater <tim.strea...@d ante.org.ukwrot e:
In article <1194880439.017 332.232...@d55g 2000hsg.googleg roups.com>,
1001 Webs <1001w...@gmail .comwrote:
>>Neither XHTML nor JavaScript are required to design websites nowadays.
OK, so how do I do data validation based on user input?
It's not a _requirement_. You can still do it purely server-side,
which you ought to support as a fallback anyway for both security and
accessibility reasons.
Of more importance, actually, is the second question I asked, about
modifying one <selectbased on the results of another. In some cases I
use Javascript all by itself, when the contents of the select are
limited to a few values, and if, for example, the user choosing "A" in
<select1 means they must be prevented from choosing "B" in <select2.
Where I really need to restrict the contents of another <selectI put
it in an iFrame, which is passed the results of <select1 and then
displays <select2. I still have to use javaScript to ensure that the
iFrame <selectis passed a useful parameter and so displays right
subset of values.
My app simply doesn't scale without this sort of technique.
Which is why I complain when I see blanket statements like "JavaScript
is not required to design websites these days".

Tim,

You don't even need to use an iframe to do it. Works fine without one.
Oh, shut the flunk up, really !!!
How would you know?
Can't you stop for a second making a fool yourself ???

What a disgusting pathetic CRIMINAL troll you are...

Tell us moron, how would you do it?
It's an straight question, just paste the code here.

Nov 12 '07 #132
On Nov 13, 11:07 am, Kevin <kevinlen...@la keareawebs.comw rote:
read more »
Man, by the time I got to the end of this post I completely forgot
what the hell we were talking about....

Nov 13 '07 #133
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:33:13 GMT
Travis Newbury scribed:
On Nov 13, 11:07 am, Kevin <kevinlen...@la keareawebs.comw rote:
>read more »

Man, by the time I got to the end of this post I completely forgot
what the hell we were talking about....
The mind is the second thing to go.

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Cavemen have formidable pheromones.
Nov 13 '07 #134
On Nov 5, 5:56 am, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attg lobal.netwrote:
>
ROFLMAO!
What does ROFLMAO mean?

Nov 14 '07 #135
ru*****@fastmai l.fm wrote:
On Nov 5, 5:56 am, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attg lobal.netwrote:
>ROFLMAO!

What does ROFLMAO mean?
Amazing how many folks that use Google for Usenet never think to use it
to find out about something!

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search
ROFLMAO - Google Search

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Take care,

Jonathan
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http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
Nov 14 '07 #136
ru*****@fastmai l.fm writes:
On Nov 5, 5:56 am, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attg lobal.netwrote:
>>
ROFLMAO!

What does ROFLMAO mean?
Rolling On the Floor, Laughing My Ass Off.

sherm--

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