Hello peeplez. I have an odd problem. When I put the ANSI symbol for
"less than" ("<"), the word STRONG and then the ANSI symbol for
"greater than" (">") in my web page, followed by some text, then close
the STRONG tag the same way, my text appears in bold. No problem.
When I do the same things with the corresponding HTML tags (< ,
> ) the tag is not interpreted, it is simply displayed:
<STRONG>text</STRONG>
.... the same thing happens with any tag. What do I have to do to make
my browser (Firefox or Explorer) interpret the tag?
Thank you,
clueless ... I mean syg
Jul 23 '05
18  10517  sy**@yahoo.com (Robert Bowen) wrote: Holy ... ! Man, I didn't intend to start a political conversation!
But you apparently intend to get ignored by knowledgedable people.
Upside-down quoting is a simple way, though not always reliable, for
that.
Oh yea, and I used the acronym ANSI because in Editplus that's what
it calls it. There is an option -- Edit :: HTML :: HTML to ANSI and
ANSI to HTML. Again, no political intention ...
Whether it has something to do with politics in your book is fairly
irrelevant. In that context, the use of the string "ANSI" is definitely
abuse of an organization's name for something that the organization has
_not_ defined or approved. In a word, bogosity.
Now, as to my problem. I don't actually WANT to use these characters
but for some reason when I save certain info in my Oracle database
(saved as a BLOB), when it is displayed on my jsp page, it is spit
out that way. Looking at the database it SEEMS as if it's being saved
"normally", as "<" and ">", and not the HTML symbols. But when it is
displayed, that's what comes out ...
Apparently you are trying to use a database without the necessary
prerequisites, such as understanding what's really happening. But that's
external to HTML.
From what you all are saying the browser's job, upon seeing these
tags, is to render them, and that's all. It doesn't care if these
symbols are used to render HTML tags. If it happens to be a "<" or
">" symbol, so be it, but it won't interpret them.
It seems that you need to read an HTML tutorial. Please come back when
you can at least describe your problem in an understandable way.
--
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Pages about Web authoring: http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/www.html
On Thu, 2 Sep 2004, Jan Roland Eriksson wrote: When I put the ANSI symbol...
"ANSI" is not really applicable to the WWW.
ANSI = American National Standards Institute
(USA based in reality).
ANSI® and USA® are registered trademarks of Microsoft Corporation.
--
Top-posting.
What's the most irritating thing on Usenet?
On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 15:42:12 +0200, Andreas Prilop
<nh******@rrz n-user.uni-hannover.de> wrote: On Thu, 2 Sep 2004, Jan Roland Eriksson wrote:
[...] ANSI = American National Standards Institute
(USA based in reality).
ANSI® and USA® are registered trademarks of Microsoft Corporation.
I would not be surprised to find that to be true :-)
MS holds a patent on Style Sheets and XML markup too.
<http://www.google.com/search?q=Micros oft+Patent+Mark up>
<http://www.google.com/search?q=Micros oft+Patent+Styl esheet>
Several aspects of US market economy has gone nuts.
(and it's contagious, slowly creeping in over here too)
I will shut up from now on :-)
--
Rex
Lars Eighner <ei*****@io.com > wrote in message news:<sl******* **************@ goodwill.io.com >... In our last episode,
<77************ **************@ posting.google. com>,
the lovely and talented Robert Bowen
broadcast on comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html:
Hello peeplez. I have an odd problem. When I put the ANSI symbol for
"less than" ("<"), the word STRONG and then the ANSI symbol for
"greater than" (">") in my web page, followed by some text, then close
the STRONG tag the same way, my text appears in bold. No problem.
When I do the same things with the corresponding HTML tags (< ,
> ) the tag is not interpreted, it is simply displayed:
<STRONG>text </STRONG>
That is exact what is supposed to happen.
... the same thing happens with any tag. What do I have to do to make
my browser (Firefox or Explorer) interpret the tag?
You have to put the tag in literal "<" and ">". The point of have
the character entities < and > is to allow you enter these
characters in text so they *won't* be interpreted as opening and
closing tag symbols.
Ok, understood. Didn't know that. Thanks for the polite, informed and
attitude-free response. So despite what the previous poster said, you
understood what I said? Go figure.
I subscribe to a bunch of different lists, mostly J2EE-related and get
tons of questions all the time, many of which can be answered by
reading FAQs or snooping around Google before-hand. Perhaps my
question was of this nature. But I never tell people they are stupid,
sling attitude or flame.
Anyway, cheers to those who gave helpful comments!
syg
On 2 Sep 2004 10:43:08 -0700, Robert Bowen <sy**@yahoo.com > wrote: Ok, understood. Didn't know that. Thanks for the polite, informed and
attitude-free response. So despite what the previous poster said, you
understood what I said? Go figure.
I subscribe to a bunch of different lists, mostly J2EE-related and get
tons of questions all the time, many of which can be answered by
reading FAQs or snooping around Google before-hand. Perhaps my
question was of this nature. But I never tell people they are stupid,
sling attitude or flame.
I and a few others gave you this advice, and I believe most of us were
matter-of-fact but polite. In fact, after reviewing all the direct answers
to your question, I find no responses which seem to me to carry any
negative attitude. So I fail to see what you're upset about, sorry if this
is insensitivity on my part.
But it seems a shame to be upset by a response or two when it's clear (to
me) most provided an answer without any perceivable "attitude".
Robert Bowen wrote: Now, as to my problem. I don't actually WANT to use these characters
but for some reason when I save certain info in my Oracle database
(saved as a BLOB), when it is displayed on my jsp page, it is spit out
that way. Looking at the database it SEEMS as if it's being saved
"normally", as "<" and ">", and not the HTML symbols. But when it is
displayed, that's what comes out ...
I haven't seen your page, but my best guess is that the data is stored
correctly in the database, and that you're using a pre-written JSP
script which automatically adds the entities (that's what < and >
are called).
In our last episode,
<77************ **************@ posting.google. com>,
the lovely and talented Robert Bowen
broadcast on comp.infosystem s. www.authoring.html: Lars Eighner <ei*****@io.com > wrote in message news:<sl******* **************@ goodwill.io.com >... In our last episode,
<77************ **************@ posting.google. com>,
the lovely and talented Robert Bowen
broadcast on comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html:
> Hello peeplez. I have an odd problem. When I put the ANSI symbol for
> "less than" ("<"), the word STRONG and then the ANSI symbol for
> "greater than" (">") in my web page, followed by some text, then close
> the STRONG tag the same way, my text appears in bold. No problem. > When I do the same things with the corresponding HTML tags (< ,
> > ) the tag is not interpreted, it is simply displayed:
><STRONG>text </STRONG>
That is exact what is supposed to happen.
> ... the same thing happens with any tag. What do I have to do to make
> my browser (Firefox or Explorer) interpret the tag?
You have to put the tag in literal "<" and ">". The point of have
the character entities < and > is to allow you enter these
characters in text so they *won't* be interpreted as opening and
closing tag symbols.
Ok, understood. Didn't know that. Thanks for the polite, informed and
attitude-free response. So despite what the previous poster said, you
understood what I said? Go figure.
From later discussions, I understand your real problem is that some
software you are using saves tags using < and > I know this is
often the case with markup you are invited to copy (such as banner
codes). Experiment with various "Save As" options with your software.
Perhaps you will find one that will save what you see as < and > as <
and >. If you can't find one, I suggest you write a little perl
script or a macro for your text editor that will make these changes
for you.
--
Lars Eighner -finger for geek code- ei*****@io.com http://www.io.com/~eighner/
If it wasn't for muscle spasms, I wouldn't get any exercise at all.
Lars Eighner <ei*****@io.com > wrote in message news:<sl******* **************@ goodwill.io.com >... In our last episode,
<77************ **************@ posting.google. com>,
the lovely and talented Robert Bowen
broadcast on comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html:
Lars Eighner <ei*****@io.com > wrote in message news:<sl******* **************@ goodwill.io.com >... In our last episode,
<77************ **************@ posting.google. com>,
the lovely and talented Robert Bowen
broadcast on comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html:
> Hello peeplez. I have an odd problem. When I put the ANSI symbol for
> "less than" ("<"), the word STRONG and then the ANSI symbol for
> "greater than" (">") in my web page, followed by some text, then close
> the STRONG tag the same way, my text appears in bold. No problem. When I do the same things with the corresponding HTML tags (< ,
> > ) the tag is not interpreted, it is simply displayed:<STRONG>text </STRONG>
That is exact what is supposed to happen.
> ... the same thing happens with any tag. What do I have to do to make
> my browser (Firefox or Explorer) interpret the tag?
You have to put the tag in literal "<" and ">". The point of have
the character entities < and > is to allow you enter these
characters in text so they *won't* be interpreted as opening and
closing tag symbols.
Ok, understood. Didn't know that. Thanks for the polite, informed and
attitude-free response. So despite what the previous poster said, you
understood what I said? Go figure.
From later discussions, I understand your real problem is that some
software you are using saves tags using < and > I know this is
often the case with markup you are invited to copy (such as banner
codes). Experiment with various "Save As" options with your software.
Perhaps you will find one that will save what you see as < and > as <
and >. If you can't find one, I suggest you write a little perl
script or a macro for your text editor that will make these changes
for you.
What I have is a jsp page which has that Microsoft Internet Explorer
edit window which allows you to input HTML-marked-up text, with HTML
tags, etc. The JDBC driver sends it to the Oracle database which saves
it as a BLOB. I guess it's Oracle's BLOB storage which is making my
life miserable. I did a copy-paste direct from the database to a text
editor and viewed it in a browser, same problem -- the tags are not
interpreted.
I guess what I'll do it write a little parser in java that subsitutes
the symbols for the tags. Kind of defeats the purpose of saving
marked-up text but anyway.
BTW, I *was* only talking about the one poster who took it upon
himself to slag me off instead of offering help, or simply ignoring
me. Aside from him ALL responses *were* helpful, and I take this
chance to thank you all again.
syg
Robert Bowen wrote:
What I have is a jsp page which has that Microsoft Internet Explorer
edit window which allows you to input HTML-marked-up text, with HTML
tags, etc. The JDBC driver sends it to the Oracle database which saves
it as a BLOB. I guess it's Oracle's BLOB storage which is making my
life miserable. I did a copy-paste direct from the database to a text
editor and viewed it in a browser, same problem -- the tags are not
interpreted.
You are guessing about where the conversion occurs.
If the text is stored as a BLOB, there is no reason for the conversion
to char entities since the storage is binary, byte-for-byte exact, no
interpretation whatever. Why would it care?
The most likely place for the conversion is the special IE edit window.
Capture the output from that and see what it looks like.
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