Hello peeplez. I have an odd problem. When I put the ANSI symbol for
"less than" ("<"), the word STRONG and then the ANSI symbol for
"greater than" (">") in my web page, followed by some text, then close
the STRONG tag the same way, my text appears in bold. No problem.
When I do the same things with the corresponding HTML tags (< ,
> ) the tag is not interpreted, it is simply displayed:
<STRONG>text</STRONG>
.... the same thing happens with any tag. What do I have to do to make
my browser (Firefox or Explorer) interpret the tag?
Thank you,
clueless ... I mean syg
18  10515 
"Robert Bowen" <sy**@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:77******** *************** ***@posting.goo gle.com... Hello peeplez. I have an odd problem. When I put the ANSI symbol for
"less than" ("<"), the word STRONG and then the ANSI symbol for
"greater than" (">") in my web page, followed by some text, then close
the STRONG tag the same way, my text appears in bold. No problem.
When I do the same things with the corresponding HTML tags (< ,
> ) the tag is not interpreted, it is simply displayed:
<STRONG>text</STRONG>
... the same thing happens with any tag. What do I have to do to make
my browser (Firefox or Explorer) interpret the tag?
Don't use the character entities < and > unless you want the '<' and
'>' characters to appear.
Robert Bowen <sy**@yahoo.com > wrote: Hello peeplez. I have an odd problem. When I put the ANSI symbol for
"less than" ("<"), the word STRONG and then the ANSI symbol for
"greater than" (">") in my web page, followed by some text, then close
the STRONG tag the same way, my text appears in bold. No problem.
When I do the same things with the corresponding HTML tags (< ,
> ) the tag is not interpreted, it is simply displayed:
<STRONG>text</STRONG>
... the same thing happens with any tag. What do I have to do to make
my browser (Firefox or Explorer) interpret the tag?
You need to use
<strong>text</strong>
rather than
<strong>t ext</strong>
Or am I missing something?
--
Darin McGrew, mc****@stanford alumni.org, http://www.rahul.net/mcgrew/
Web Design Group, da***@htmlhelp. com, http://www.HTMLHelp.com/
"The world owes you nothing. It was here first." - Mark Twain
On 1 Sep 2004 11:07:52 -0700, Robert Bowen <sy**@yahoo.com > wrote: Hello peeplez.
Grrr.. :)
I have an odd problem. When I put the ANSI symbol for
"less than" ("<"), the word STRONG and then the ANSI symbol for
"greater than" (">") in my web page, followed by some text, then close
the STRONG tag the same way, my text appears in bold. No problem.
That's correct.
When I do the same things with the corresponding HTML tags (< ,
> ) the tag is not interpreted, it is simply displayed:
<STRONG>text</STRONG>
... the same thing happens with any tag.
That's also correct behavior. < is used to make the UA render <, as an
actual < will be seen as the start of a tag.
What do I have to do to make
my browser (Firefox or Explorer) interpret the tag?
Use < and >.
If you're trying to get around some HTML filter in a web forum, tough
luck, this won't work. < can't ever start a tag, it's a rendered
character. sy**@yahoo.com (Robert Bowen) wrote: Hello peeplez. I have an odd problem. When I put the ANSI symbol for
"less than" ("<"), the word STRONG and then the ANSI symbol for
"greater than" (">") in my web page, followed by some text, then close
the STRONG tag the same way, my text appears in bold. No problem.
When I do the same things with the corresponding HTML tags (< ,
> ) the tag is not interpreted, it is simply displayed:
<STRONG>text </STRONG>
... the same thing happens with any tag. What do I have to do to make
my browser (Firefox or Explorer) interpret the tag?
Thank you,
clueless ... I mean syg
First, that's not exactly "escaping". Escaping is preceding a symbol
with something that indicates that it should be interpreted in the
normal way instead of in a special way (or vice-versa, depending on
your poiint of view). You're replacing < and > altogether.
Second, that's what escaping is *for*: to avoid the treatment that
would otherwise be given to some symbol. If you are surprised that
escaping (or, in this case, replacement with entity codes) produces
different treatment, then you were missing the point, and leads to the
question: why were you using < and >, if you wanted the *same*
result as using < and > ?
--
Harlan Messinger
Remove the first dot from my e-mail address.
Veuillez ôter le premier point de mon adresse de courriel.
Robert Bowen wrote: Hello peeplez. I have an odd problem. When I put the ANSI symbol for
"less than" ("<"), the word STRONG and then the ANSI symbol for
"greater than" (">") in my web page, followed by some text, then close
the STRONG tag the same way, my text appears in bold. No problem.
When I do the same things with the corresponding HTML tags (< ,
> ) the tag is not interpreted, it is simply displayed:
Yes, this is as it should be. I do not understand why you thing there
is a problem.
<STRONG>text</STRONG>
... the same thing happens with any tag. What do I have to do to make
my browser (Firefox or Explorer) interpret the tag?
Don't use the escaped values for angle brackets. Escape sequences exist
so that the characters can be displayed rather than interpreted.
--
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(Remove .AXSPAMGN for email)
On 1 Sep 2004 11:07:52 -0700, sy**@yahoo.com (Robert Bowen) wrote: Hello peeplez.
Hmm...
I have an odd problem.
No, you just need to learn a bit more.
When I put the ANSI symbol...
"ANSI" is not really applicable to the WWW. It comes by the expansion of
the ABBR/ACRONYMS themselves.
ANSI = American National Standards Institute
(USA based in reality).
WWW = World Wide Web (and the 'world' is by magnitudes
bigger than US-America :-)
...for "less than" ("<"), the word STRONG and then the ANSI
symbol for "greater than" (">") in my web page, followed by
some text, then close the STRONG tag the same way, my text
appears in bold. No problem.
That's the "intended default" behavior in user agents, yes.
When I do the same things with the corresponding HTML tags
(< , > ) the tag is not interpreted, it is simply
displayed: <STRONG>text</STRONG>
That's also the intended default behavior in user agents.
... What do I have to do to make my browser (Firefox or
Explorer) interpret the tag?
You need to develop an understanding of the difference between serving
your browser just one single byte of data as represented by e.g. the
characters '<' or '>' as opposed to serving the same browser a series of
four characters as in your example '<' or '>' where the initial
'&' character has a special meaning.
In HTML (and SGML of course) the '&' character directly followed by a
valid 'NAME START' character, and possibly a sequence of valid 'NAME
CHARACTER's, signals to the browser to go into a lookup table and look
for a character replacement for the 'entity' reference just given.
If it can find a replacement character for the '&...' sequence, that's
the character(seque nce) it is supposed to show in display.
I once wrote a page that takes the expansion of entities a little bit
further. You can always try to follow the experiment as I wrote it, and
if you do, I think that you will understand a bit more about entity
references. (i.e. those pesky &whatever; thingies :-)
<http://www.css.nu/markup/markup-entities.html>
Side note: the ending ';' character is not formally required in all
cases either but to keep it safe, just put it in for now will you?
(it is the character sequence between the '&' and the ';' that points
into the entity expansion "look-up table")
All the best...
--
Rex
Jan Roland Eriksson wrote: WWW = World Wide Web (and the 'world' is by magnitudes bigger than
US-America :-)
Really? The way GW Bush behaves, well, I naturally assumed the world and
the U.S. were synonymous.
--
Brian (remove ".invalid" to email me) http://www.tsmchughs.com/
In our last episode,
<77************ **************@ posting.google. com>,
the lovely and talented Robert Bowen
broadcast on comp.infosystem s. www.authoring.html: Hello peeplez. I have an odd problem. When I put the ANSI symbol for
"less than" ("<"), the word STRONG and then the ANSI symbol for
"greater than" (">") in my web page, followed by some text, then close
the STRONG tag the same way, my text appears in bold. No problem.
When I do the same things with the corresponding HTML tags (< ,
> ) the tag is not interpreted, it is simply displayed:
<STRONG>text </STRONG>
That is exact what is supposed to happen.
... the same thing happens with any tag. What do I have to do to make
my browser (Firefox or Explorer) interpret the tag?
You have to put the tag in literal "<" and ">". The point of have
the character entities < and > is to allow you enter these
characters in text so they *won't* be interpreted as opening and
closing tag symbols.
--
Lars Eighner -finger for geek code- ei*****@io.com http://www.io.com/~eighner/
If it wasn't for muscle spasms, I wouldn't get any exercise at all.
Holy ... ! Man, I didn't intend to start a political conversation! And
certainly didn't mean to offend anyone by writing 'peeplez'. Not sure
why that bothers people but anyway, it was just something I wrote ...
to vary the opening sentence a bit. Sorry ...
Oh yea, and I used the acronym ANSI because in Editplus that's what it
calls it. There is an option -- Edit :: HTML :: HTML to ANSI and ANSI
to HTML. Again, no political intention ...
Now, as to my problem. I don't actually WANT to use these characters
but for some reason when I save certain info in my Oracle database
(saved as a BLOB), when it is displayed on my jsp page, it is spit out
that way. Looking at the database it SEEMS as if it's being saved
"normally", as "<" and ">", and not the HTML symbols. But when it is
displayed, that's what comes out ...
From what you all are saying the browser's job, upon seeing these
tags, is to render them, and that's all. It doesn't care if these
symbols are used to render HTML tags. If it happens to be a "<" or ">"
symbol, so be it, but it won't interpret them.
Ok well ... I wonder why Oracle saves BLOBs that way? It certainly is
annoying. If it saved them "normally" and not as HTML codes I suppose
my text would be displayed as I want it to be ...
Anyway, problem for another day.
Thanks for your responses, and sorry to have annoyed or offended.
syg
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WWW = World Wide Web (and the 'world' is by magnitudes bigger than
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