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Is Vista replacing XP or Not?

MMcCarthy
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When I bought my new system a couple of months ago I actually paid extra to have XP Pro installed rather than Vista. Apart from anything else most of my clients still use XP. Eventually I will have to partition my system to allow for Vista to be loaded as well (I have a home licence) just to test compatability.

I've also noticed we are getting more questions from members who are having problems on applications when moving them to Vista.

I would be very interested in the opinions and experiences of this community on this issue.

BTW, can we just accept that Linux is the best thing since sliced bread and keep this topic purely on windows?

Mary (digg it)
Sep 28 '07
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kcddoorman
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For us people that work with computers everyday it will seem as though Vista has replaced XP in the next couple of years. Even though XP has become a very reliable and popular system I still run into clients that have windows98 or CE or millenium. I think that in 5-7 years from now XP will have become the old windows 98. If microsoft really wanted to move its product faster(albeit with a large risk of pissing off a lot people) they would stop supporting XP much sooner than they did with the Windows98 OS. This would beneifit them greatly because instead of paying people to keep aging code up to specification with new hardware and protocol they could focus on making their flagships, Vista and Server 2007, a better product.

A note on Linux. Yes it works great. If you know what you are doing then setting up servers is a snap. The problem I run into is "knowing what you are doing". I have quite a bit of experience in using linux, mostly setting up servers like apache, sendmail, I even got a nameD server working once, but when working with a team you can't always rely on the other people to know what they are doing. Linux needs what Linux has always needed; more popularity. It's so much easier to get a job administrating a Windows based network because they outnumber linux by a lot so that is what people study for in school.

Anyway, "... and that's all I have to say about that." Forest Gump
Sep 28 '07 #21
AricC
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I've actually heard some really good things about Vista. I've also heard some really bad things though. My two main concerns are 1) You need a ton of memory to run 2) It's a big size compared to other OS's ; Neither of these are too concerning with the price of memory and hard disks these days but I've seen a SUSE install that was ~ 750MB of course it only had some basic features.
Sep 28 '07 #22
weaknessforcats
9,208 Recognized Expert Moderator Expert
There's very little more I can add.

Of course, Vista replaces XP. Hackers have forced issues.

The hard part is that some drivers that work on XP won't work on Vista due to crappy code. So, there is heartburn in user land where the technical smarts lean toward the sloppy and the incompatible with anybody else. I expect another round of bad ol'Microsoft trying to put common hard-working folk out of a job. Now if these folks would just learn to code properly...but, I digress.

I would wait for Service Pack 1 before installing Vista. I should also be sure I have 1GB of RAM, or more. Further, you should run the analysis program provided by Microsoft to see if your drivers and installed products are Vista compatible.

In short: when a new version appears, you should upgrade. Otherwise, you should still be feeding your horse oats.
Sep 28 '07 #23
r035198x
13,262 MVP

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And also one major difference in Xp and Asta la Vista is that the second one has that boring and anoying features,like "Do you trust this setup?" If I don't tust it I wont run it.

Savage
That's supposed to be a good feature. Vista's security model is a big improvement from XP. I used Vista Business for three months without an antivirus just running the Windows defender and the Windows firewall. I never got a problem with any viruses. Vista always blocks new programs from accessing system critical areas until you authorize those programs.

The majority of the software I used on XP had compatible versions for Vista (except DB2 v8.2 which needed a fixpack from the IBM DB2 site). I got DB2 version 9 instead which ran wonderfully on Vista but was apparently not supported by my Rational v6. So I ended up dumping all IBM products but now I digress ...

Software compatibility is IMO the main reason why an OS becomes famous or otherwise. The more major software companies produce Vista compatible software the more popular Vista is going to become.

The scheduling still appeared as suspect to me as on XP though.

If you are making software that you want to be around for some time you better make sure it's Vista compatible because from the little time that I used it, it was quite apparent to me that Vista is here to stay.
Sep 28 '07 #24
Savage
1,764 Recognized Expert Top Contributor
That's supposed to be a good feature. Vista's security model is a big improvement from XP. I used Vista Business for three months without an anti virus just running the Windows defender and the Windows firewall. I never got a problem with any viruses. Vista always blocks new programs from accessing system critical areas until you authorize those programs.

The majority of the software I used on XP had compatible versions for Vista (except DB2 v8.2 which needed a fixpack from the IBM DB2 site). I got DB2 version 9 instead which ran wonderfully on Vista but was apparently not supported by my Rational v6. So I ended up dumping all IBM products but now I digress ...

Software compatibility is IMO the main reason why an OS becomes famous or otherwise. The more major software companies produce Vista compatible software the more popular Vista is going to become.

The scheduling still appeared as suspect to me as on XP though.

If you are making software that you want to be around for some time you better make sure it's Vista compatible because from the little time that I used it, it was quite apparent to me that Vista is here to stay.
Yes,that's something like Kaspersky's Proactive defense.Every time I run a browser he opens and starts yelling even if I do check options "Add to shared DLL's list"and "Don't ask me again".

My experience ended with this when this smarty pants identified a system exe as a spy ware and deleted it in a scan.

Savage
Sep 28 '07 #25
Shashi Sadasivan
1,435 Recognized Expert Top Contributor
Hi All,
Guess its the way Microsoft approaches making softwares to build it, run it in the market and keep putting in updates. This way they can concentrate on upgrading or improving sections which are more needed than others.

So they have always had the concept of Service paks.
Vista's service pack is yet to be released and with this, a lot of compatibility issues will be solved.


Im currently working with .Net 2.0 on a vista machine even though all the systems at our client site use XP, Why....well so that if they switch over to XP (which they would once the vista updates arrives and all drivers are supported properly and stuff) then i dont have to spend time building the application upwards. Eventually with vista XP will be demoralized by Microsoft and will lead everyone to using Vista. (in between, I still believe that Windows 95 was the most stable release)

cheers
Sep 28 '07 #26
Frinavale
9,735 Recognized Expert Moderator Expert
I got a new computer this month and it came with Vista, and I like it for the most part, but the problem is that so many things just aren't compatible with Vista yet. I had Quicktime on my computer and anytime it opened up, I would get the blue screen of death.
...

QuickTime didn't work?

I'm having the opposite problem...I'm finding that QuickTime is opening when I haven't actually asked it to open....I'm still trying to get to the bottom of this (it's not in the start up programs...etc. etc...I'll figure it out sooner or later).
Sep 28 '07 #27
Savage
1,764 Recognized Expert Top Contributor
QuickTime didn't work?

I'm having the opposite problem...I'm finding that QuickTime is opening when I haven't actually asked it to open....I'm still trying to get to the bottom of this (it's not in the start up programs...etc. etc...I'll figure it out sooner or later).
LOL

Savage
Sep 28 '07 #28
mlcampeau
296 Recognized Expert Contributor
QuickTime didn't work?

I'm having the opposite problem...I'm finding that QuickTime is opening when I haven't actually asked it to open....I'm still trying to get to the bottom of this (it's not in the start up programs...etc. etc...I'll figure it out sooner or later).
Nope it definitely did not work. Every time I tried using it, the blue screen of death appeared and my computer restarted. When I looked it up online, I noticed tons of comments regarding ITunes and Quicktime not being compatible. I don't like Quicktime so I wasn't too sad to uninstall it, except for the fact that I need it to view any videos I capture on my digital camera. But that's what my old computer with XP is for!
Sep 28 '07 #29
r035198x
13,262 MVP
Hi All,
Guess its the way Microsoft approaches making softwares to build it, run it in the market and keep putting in updates. This way they can concentrate on upgrading or improving sections which are more needed than others.

So they have always had the concept of Service paks.
Vista's service pack is yet to be released and with this, a lot of compatibility issues will be solved.


Im currently working with .Net 2.0 on a vista machine even though all the systems at our client site use XP, Why....well so that if they switch over to XP (which they would once the vista updates arrives and all drivers are supported properly and stuff) then i dont have to spend time building the application upwards. Eventually with vista XP will be demoralized by Microsoft and will lead everyone to using Vista. (in between, I still believe that Windows 95 was the most stable release)

cheers
The beta SP1 was released 4 days ago. I'm not sure it's available to the general public yet.

I thought all Vista Editions ship with .NET 3.0. Which version do you have?
Sep 28 '07 #30

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