wing ide vs. komodo?

[John Salerno]

Just curious what users of the two big commercial IDEs think of them
compared to one another (if you've used both).

Wing IDE looks a lot nicer and fuller featured in the screenshots, but a
glance at the feature list shows that the "personal" version doesn't
even support code folding! That's a little ridiculous and makes me have
doubts about it.

Komodo, on the other hand, seems to have more of the features that the
personal version of Wing IDE lacks (call tips, class browser, etc.) but
the look of it seems very sparse for some reason.

[jUrner]

Paul Boddie wrote:

hg wrote:

Eric3 is very nice and moving forward ... I believe it is based on the
QT library which free ... yet not so free under windows (i have yet to
understand the business model).

There are snapshots of Eric4 available, apparently. See here for more:

http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/
http://www.die-offenbachs.de/detlev/eric4.html

[...]

Eric is in the state of being ported to Qt4 with Qt4 being available
commercial
licenced or gpl'ed on windows. Currently first Eric4 snapshots are
availabe,
more or less only waiting for QScintilla2 to arrive.

See the mailing list if interested
http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/mailman/listinfo/eric
or
http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.eric

Jürgen

[Theerasak Photha]

On 13 Oct 2006 17:07:56 -0700, Sandra-24 <sa***********@ yahoo.comwrote:

John Salerno wrote:

Just curious what users of the two big commercial IDEs think of them
compared to one another (if you've used both).

Wing IDE looks a lot nicer and fuller featured in the screenshots, but a
glance at the feature list shows that the "personal" version doesn't
even support code folding! That's a little ridiculous and makes me have
doubts about it.

Well I don't know about the personal edition, but I've used Komodo and
Wing, and I must say that I chose Wing in the end because it's debugger
is so much more robust than komodo. I tried remote debugging mod_python
using komodo, and it just choked. I spent a week trying to get it to
work. Wing, on the other hand, just worked. I have only the highest
praise for the Wing IDE Debugger, once you get to know it, it's so much
more powerful than Komodo's. The time saved over Komodo was well worth
the money for the professional edition.

Well, the beauty of Python is that even seasoned programmers have told
me that they've only used pdb several times /in their lives/.

-- Theerasak

[gblais]

I have both, but the IDE I use every day is SPE, which is shareware. I'm
not savvy enough to enumerate a feature comparison, but I do find SPE
extremely friendly and intuitive.

Gerry

[vj]

I've tried both and find WingIDE much faster than Komodo and the layout
is very well thought out. I love the way you can collapse all the
differnet panes with a few keystrokes. I also like their autocomplete
functionality.

Wing is developed by a small company, focussed on python development,
while komodo supports all the major scripting languages.

VJ

[Fuzzyman]

vj wrote:

I've tried both and find WingIDE much faster than Komodo and the layout
is very well thought out. I love the way you can collapse all the
differnet panes with a few keystrokes. I also like their autocomplete
functionality.

+1

I use Wing and enjoy its auto-completion.

Fuzzyman
http://www.voidspace.org.uk

Wing is developed by a small company, focussed on python development,
while komodo supports all the major scripting languages.

VJ

[vj]

Forgot to mention WING's file search and replace is pretty cool and
powerful. It keeps checking changes in a different thread. If you want
to change yyy in say 100 files you would:

1. specify yyy in the search window
2. A list of files get displayed with matching yyy
3. As you fix replace yyy in the files the list of files with matching
yyy reduces automatically. This is very cool and very useful.

Another thing I like about WING is that it warns you if you have tabs
ans spaces mixed in a file.

The embedded python shell is also a useful feature.

VJ

[Karlo Lozovina]

"vj" <vi******@gmail .comwrote in news:1162708898 .962171.161120
@e3g2000cwe.goo glegroups.com:

The embedded python shell is also a useful feature.

Yes, but Debug Probe and Stack Data absolutely rock! Can't live without
them anymore. Just set a breakpoint, run your code end then you can
inspect all of the structures via Stack Data, and you can play with those
structures using Debug Probe. Huge productivity boost...

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[sjdevnull]

Karlo Lozovina wrote:

"vj" <vi******@gmail .comwrote in news:1162708898 .962171.161120
@e3g2000cwe.goo glegroups.com:

The embedded python shell is also a useful feature.

Yes, but Debug Probe and Stack Data absolutely rock! Can't live without
them anymore. Just set a breakpoint, run your code end then you can
inspect all of the structures via Stack Data, and you can play with those
structures using Debug Probe. Huge productivity boost...

Those are pretty basic features that any environment supporting a
symbolic python debugger should have, they're not a distinguishing
feature for one particular IDE--I wouldn't expect any environment that
didn't allow that to even be in the discussion.

[SPE - Stani's Python Editor]

gb****@cox.net schreef:

I have both, but the IDE I use every day is SPE, which is shareware. I'm
not savvy enough to enumerate a feature comparison, but I do find SPE
extremely friendly and intuitive.

Gerry

SPE is not shareware. It is open-source, gpl-licensed freeware.
Donations however never hurt.

Stani

--
http://pythonide.stani.be

[John Henry]

"cool" is in the eyes of the beholder.

While I agree that this can be useful in some situations, I find it
very annoying when all I want (and need) to do is a simple dumber
search and yet it tells me tons of useless searches that I don't care
for.

The inability to debug multi-threaded applications is pretty annoying
too. It's unacceptable that a "profession al" level debugger can't
handle multithreaded code.

But then again, I depend on Wing everyday. I just have to build my
code with lots of "if debugging, don't thread else thread" type of
constructs...

vj wrote:

Forgot to mention WING's file search and replace is pretty cool and
powerful. It keeps checking changes in a different thread. If you want
to change yyy in say 100 files you would:

1. specify yyy in the search window
2. A list of files get displayed with matching yyy
3. As you fix replace yyy in the files the list of files with matching
yyy reduces automatically. This is very cool and very useful.

Another thing I like about WING is that it warns you if you have tabs
ans spaces mixed in a file.

The embedded python shell is also a useful feature.

VJ