wing ide vs. komodo?

[John Salerno]

Just curious what users of the two big commercial IDEs think of them
compared to one another (if you've used both).

Wing IDE looks a lot nicer and fuller featured in the screenshots, but a
glance at the feature list shows that the "personal" version doesn't
even support code folding! That's a little ridiculous and makes me have
doubts about it.

Komodo, on the other hand, seems to have more of the features that the
personal version of Wing IDE lacks (call tips, class browser, etc.) but
the look of it seems very sparse for some reason.

[hg]

John Salerno wrote:

Just curious what users of the two big commercial IDEs think of them
compared to one another (if you've used both).

Wing IDE looks a lot nicer and fuller featured in the screenshots, but a
glance at the feature list shows that the "personal" version doesn't
even support code folding! That's a little ridiculous and makes me have
doubts about it.

Komodo, on the other hand, seems to have more of the features that the
personal version of Wing IDE lacks (call tips, class browser, etc.) but
the look of it seems very sparse for some reason.

I'm testing them both now ... Wing IDE is in front (but I'm testing the
pro version).
hg

[Theerasak Photha]

On 10/13/06, John Salerno <jo******@nospa mgmail.comwrote :

Komodo, on the other hand, seems to have more of the features that the
personal version of Wing IDE lacks (call tips, class browser, etc.) but
the look of it seems very sparse for some reason.

But that's really a good thing.

-- Theerasak

[John Salerno]

Theerasak Photha wrote:

On 10/13/06, John Salerno <jo******@nospa mgmail.comwrote :

>Komodo, on the other hand, seems to have more of the features that the
personal version of Wing IDE lacks (call tips, class browser, etc.) but
the look of it seems very sparse for some reason.

But that's really a good thing.

-- Theerasak

Yeah, features are more important, and probably you can customize the
look of the IDE anyway, so either one can look as full or as bare as you
want (I assume). Perhaps I'll give the trials a try myself, just to see,
although I know for sure I won't be buying the Pro version of Wing.

[hg]

Theerasak Photha wrote:

On 10/13/06, John Salerno <jo******@nospa mgmail.comwrote :

>Komodo, on the other hand, seems to have more of the features that the
personal version of Wing IDE lacks (call tips, class browser, etc.) but
the look of it seems very sparse for some reason.

But that's really a good thing.

-- Theerasak

I'm really interested: my *small* company is ready to spend the ~300$ in
the process, but Komodo looks _very_ sparse.

How do you go about it? ... I have resources to look at it for one or
two days.

hg

[Theerasak Photha]

On 10/13/06, hg <[e-mail] rote:

I'm really interested: my *small* company is ready to spend the ~300$ in
the process, but Komodo looks _very_ sparse.

How do you go about it? ... I have resources to look at it for one or
two days.

It's entirely possible you could use a free IDE as well. (Just
throwing it out there.)

-- Theerasak

[hg]

Theerasak Photha wrote:

On 10/13/06, hg <[e-mail] rote:

>I'm really interested: my *small* company is ready to spend the ~300$ in
the process, but Komodo looks _very_ sparse.

How do you go about it? ... I have resources to look at it for one or
two days.

It's entirely possible you could use a free IDE as well. (Just
throwing it out there.)

-- Theerasak

I have spend the past two years with eclipse/pydev ... a few issue are
still troublesome to me (speed, search for definitions ... being a few
of them) ... and until two days ago I had not even looked at Wing as I
wrongly thought it was on Windoze-based. But I must must admit I am
impressed - yet I feel it would be stupid to not look carefully at
Komodo ... hence my questions.

hg

[Theerasak Photha]

On 10/13/06, hg <[e-mail] rote:

I have spend the past two years with eclipse/pydev ... a few issue are
still troublesome to me (speed, search for definitions ... being a few
of them) ... and until two days ago I had not even looked at Wing as I
wrongly thought it was on Windoze-based. But I must must admit I am
impressed - yet I feel it would be stupid to not look carefully at
Komodo ... hence my questions.

I haven't used Komodo personally. I like Emacs. However:

1) *Appearing* sparse doesn't mean much---Emacs 22's GTK interface
'looks' sparse as well, and sparse is the last word that comes to mind
when I think of Emacs
2) I've *heard* good things about Komodo before from others---it might
just be awesome

Perhaps you could try the Eric IDE? I hear SPE is not in active
dev.--- a pity to be sure, but I have used Eric before and found it
pretty easy to use and featureful.

-- Theerasak

[John Salerno]

Theerasak Photha wrote:

On 10/13/06, hg <[e-mail] rote:

>I have spend the past two years with eclipse/pydev ... a few issue are
still troublesome to me (speed, search for definitions ... being a few
of them) ... and until two days ago I had not even looked at Wing as I
wrongly thought it was on Windoze-based. But I must must admit I am
impressed - yet I feel it would be stupid to not look carefully at
Komodo ... hence my questions.

I haven't used Komodo personally. I like Emacs. However:

1) *Appearing* sparse doesn't mean much---Emacs 22's GTK interface
'looks' sparse as well, and sparse is the last word that comes to mind
when I think of Emacs
2) I've *heard* good things about Komodo before from others---it might
just be awesome

Perhaps you could try the Eric IDE? I hear SPE is not in active
dev.--- a pity to be sure, but I have used Eric before and found it
pretty easy to use and featureful.

-- Theerasak

Is Eric available for Windows? I have found the install files before,
but they looked like it was for Linux.

[hg]

Theerasak Photha wrote:

On 10/13/06, hg <[e-mail] rote:

>I have spend the past two years with eclipse/pydev ... a few issue are
still troublesome to me (speed, search for definitions ... being a few
of them) ... and until two days ago I had not even looked at Wing as I
wrongly thought it was on Windoze-based. But I must must admit I am
impressed - yet I feel it would be stupid to not look carefully at
Komodo ... hence my questions.

I haven't used Komodo personally. I like Emacs. However:

1) *Appearing* sparse doesn't mean much---Emacs 22's GTK interface
'looks' sparse as well, and sparse is the last word that comes to mind
when I think of Emacs
2) I've *heard* good things about Komodo before from others---it might
just be awesome

Perhaps you could try the Eric IDE? I hear SPE is not in active
dev.--- a pity to be sure, but I have used Eric before and found it
pretty easy to use and featureful.

-- Theerasak

Eric3 is very nice and moving forward ... I believe it is based on the
QT library which free ... yet not so free under windows (i have yet to
understand the business model).
Emacs I use for very small project (my finger talk emacs ;-) ) ... but
CTAGS is a bit cumbersome for large projects and as my architectures
have much need for improvements, I need powerful tools to find my way
around.

PS: I also was taken aback by the fact that the PyDev license was
"per-year" ... it's like buying Word for a year only ... isn't it ?
hg