Which IDE is recommended?

[monkey]

Read through python site for programming tool, really plenty of choices :-)
(For c++, I just can't breath with very very limited choices)

Tried Spe, it come with wxGlade built-in very nice(is Spe still actively
develop?). But seem that Boa Constructor and PyDev(the plug-in for Eclipse)
also worth looking. Actually which one are you guys using? and why? I think
it is also valuable for those who are new to python as me.

[Ville Vainio]

>>>>> "Brian" == Brian Beck <ex****@gmail.c om> writes:

Brian> Ville Vainio wrote:

Perhaps you are just being impatient?

Also, make sure that Preferences/pydev/code completion has
"Autocomple te on '.'" box checked.

Brian> Yeah, that option is enabled. I actually just discovered
Brian> that it does work in the example you give and for other
Brian> modules in the standard library. But calls to standard
Brian> library modules only occur maybe twice in any of my big
Brian> scripts... the problem is I've been trying code completion
Brian> with third-party modules and local classes, which still
Brian> doesn't work.

From the faq at http://pydev.sourceforge.net/faq.html:

How do I set the PYTHONPATH for code completion to work in my project?
To set the PYTHONPATH for code completion purposes, you have to right
click your project root, choose properties->PyDev PYTHONPATH and set
it. The Restore PYTHONPATH button should get your enviroment
PYTHONPATH and automatically set it. If it does not work, check python
interpreter is correctly set (see questions above).

Does this help?

--
Ville Vainio http://tinyurl.com/2prnb

[Brian Beck]

Ville Vainio wrote:

Does this help?

Not really, my PYTHONPATH is fine. I found out that modules imported in
the format "import mx" work fine, but "from mx import DateTime" doesn't
work -- it will still only auto-complete when I type "mx." instead of
realizing that it's in the local scope now. So it's fine all the modules
fine, just placing them wrong in the auto-complete search tree, or
however it works.

--
Brian Beck
Adventurer of the First Order

[Matt]

Sorry about that Frank. You have to create a project (New --> Project)
and add your file to it then Run-->Run. This is a bug that slipped past
because we do all of our development using projects and hadn't even
tried the obvious: open file and run. That fix has made its way to the
wx folks, but hasn't been released yet.

[Matt]

Franz,

To ask for help otherwise, use the forums link from
http://sourceforge.net/projects/activegrid/

--Matt

[Franz Steinhaeusler]

On 28 Apr 2005 09:48:25 -0700, "Matt" <ma********@gma il.com> wrote:

Sorry about that Frank. You have to create a project (New --> Project)
and add your file to it then Run-->Run. This is a bug that slipped past
because we do all of our development using projects and hadn't even
tried the obvious: open file and run. That fix has made its way to the
wx folks, but hasn't been released yet.

Hello Matt,

thanks for clarification ;)

--
Franz Steinhäusler
http://drpython.sourceforge.net/
http://mitglied.lycos.de/drpython/

[John J. Lee]

Dave Cook <da******@nowhe re.net> writes:

On 2005-04-27, monkey <[e-mail]> wrote: [...] Pydev has some compelling features, but I wish I didn't have to run eclipse

[...]

What are those compelling features of Pydev, for an emacs user?
John

[Ville Vainio]

>>>>> "John" == John J Lee <jj*@pobox.co m> writes:

John> Dave Cook <da******@nowhe re.net> writes:

John> What are those compelling features of Pydev, for an emacs
John> user?

http://pydev.sourceforge.net/features.html

Code completion and debugger are the most obvious ones. Eclipse itself
is also quite a "feature".

--
Ville Vainio http://tinyurl.com/2prnb

[John J. Lee]

Ville Vainio <vi***@spammers .com> writes:

>> "John" == John J Lee <jj*@pobox.co m> writes:

John> Dave Cook <da******@nowhe re.net> writes:

John> What are those compelling features of Pydev, for an emacs
John> user?

http://pydev.sourceforge.net/features.html

Code completion and debugger are the most obvious ones. Eclipse itself
is also quite a "feature".

What good features does the debugger have? What other good features
does Eclipse have right now (that are useful for Python programming,
but not necessarily specific to that)?

Obviously Eclipse looks good in the future, but I wonder what it's
like right now.

I'm more interested in features than bugs, since I'm sure the
following experience isn't typical, but: I did try it not long ago,
and the commercial distribution I tried (I forget the name, but it had
added Python support) hung after a few minutes of use, and completion
didn't work. It was also terribly slow (compared to emacs on the same
box), which worries me more than the bugs.
John

[Dave Cook]

On 2005-04-29, John J. Lee <jj*@pobox.co m> wrote:

Dave Cook <da******@nowhe re.net> writes:

Pydev has some compelling features, but I wish I didn't have to run eclipse On 2005-04-27, monkey <[e-mail]> wrote:

What are those compelling features of Pydev, for an emacs user?

For me, the code completion feature. Also, modern anti-aliased font
rendering under Linux doesn't hurt.

Emacs python-mode is still ahead on code formatting. For example, the way
you can line up code by hitting tab once anywhere on the line. And I miss
emacs things like M-^ (delete-indentation; joins the line to the previous
line and removes whitespace).

Eclipse has an emacs keybinding mode, but it's not very comprehensive.

I'm not ready to switch, but I played around enough to know I could get
fairly comfortable if I wanted to.

I exaggerated memory usage a bit. Eclipse only uses about twice as much RAM
as XEmacs on my Linux box. Still, I probably wouldn't find it as usable if
this wasn't an AMD64 3200 with 1G RAM.

Dave Cook

[dcrespo]

> But I personally recommend DrPython. (Not only, I'm a member of the

project).

I saw this message and downloaded DrPython. It's very good: I like the
class/functions browser while I'm coding... but I can't find the
autocompletion feature you talk, and I think this feature is very
important. Where it is?

Daniel