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Which IDE is recommended?

Read through python site for programming tool, really plenty of choices :-)
(For c++, I just can't breath with very very limited choices)

Tried Spe, it come with wxGlade built-in very nice(is Spe still actively
develop?). But seem that Boa Constructor and PyDev(the plug-in for Eclipse)
also worth looking. Actually which one are you guys using? and why? I think
it is also valuable for those who are new to python as me.

Jul 19 '05
48 3109
On 27 Apr 2005 07:36:28 -0700, "Matt" <ma********@gma il.com> wrote:
The ActiveGrid IDE is a sample app with wxPython. It has a lot of good
features including a source code debugger that allows you to debug wx
apps and set breakpoints from the code editor. I am also biased
though--I work on that IDE and use it for all my coding. Its pretty far
along on Windows and getting better on Linux. We just got it working on
a Mac yesterday so that version won't be out for a bit.


Little OT:

I tried to run or debug the current open file. but it didn't work.
As I found no forum, I ask here:

Traceback (most recent call last):
File
"C:\Python24\Li b\site-packages\wx-2.6-msw-ansi\wx\lib\pyd ocview.py",
line
930, in ProcessEvent
return DocMDIParentFra meMixIn.Process Event(self, event)
File
"C:\Python24\Li b\site-packages\wx-2.6-msw-ansi\wx\lib\pyd ocview.py",
line
325, in ProcessEvent
return wx.GetApp().Pro cessEvent(event )
File
"C:\Python24\Li b\site-packages\wx-2.6-msw-ansi\wx\lib\pyd ocview.py",
line
1636, in ProcessEvent
if service.Process Event(event):
File "C:\Programme\w xPython2.6 Docs and
Demos\samples\i de\activegrid\t ool\Debu
ggerService.py" , line 1534, in ProcessEvent
self.OnRunProje ct(event)
File "C:\Programme\w xPython2.6 Docs and
Demos\samples\i de\activegrid\t ool\Debu
ggerService.py" , line 1633, in OnRunProject
dlg = CommandProperti esDialog(self.G etView().GetFra me(), 'Run',
projectServi
ce, None)
File "C:\Programme\w xPython2.6 Docs and
Demos\samples\i de\activegrid\t ool\Debu
ggerService.py" , line 1933, in __init__
self._selectedP rojectDocument =
self._projectDo cumentList[selectedIndex]
IndexError: list index out of range

Where to ask for help otherwise?

--
Franz Steinhäusler
http://drpython.sourceforge.net/
http://mitglied.lycos.de/drpython/
Jul 19 '05 #21
On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 00:10:00 +0800, "monkey" <m@m.com> wrote:
Is it related to wxpython you mean? or program with GUI in tk (the default
installed with python) is faster? Would you mind to tell me more...


I have the impression, that the startup time of tkinter is twice as fast
as in wxPython.
But after that, wxPython response times ar as fast as in tkinter.

--
Franz Steinhäusler
http://drpython.sourceforge.net/
http://mitglied.lycos.de/drpython/
Jul 19 '05 #22
Dave Cook wrote:
(snip)
Once upon a time emacs was considered bloated,
That was when "640ko ought to be enough" ?-)
but it's tiny compared to eclipse.

Yeps. And a *lot* faster. And in not that much bigger than Vim in fact...

--
bruno desthuilliers
python -c "print '@'.join(['.'.join([w[::-1] for w in p.split('.')]) for
p in 'o****@xiludom. gro'.split('@')])"
Jul 19 '05 #23
Ville Vainio wrote:
What version? PyDev has increased in maturity quite a bit lately.


PyDev 0.9.2 with Eclipse 3.0.2. It's a nice effort currently, but some
of my issues are:

* Code completion doesn't work properly for me, and I have no idea why.
I have to type the '.' then ADD A SPACE, *then* press Ctrl+Space. If I
type Ctrl+Space after the dot, nothing happens. So basically it's not
very useful, because I'd have to go back and get rid of the stupid space.

* Code completion isn't nearly as fast as WingIDE.

* Auto-indentation could be smarter, such as dedenting after a 'return'
statement.

* The Problems view finds 52 errors in a file with 0.

* Run As doesn't dump me into an interactive shell.

--
Brian Beck
Adventurer of the First Order
Jul 19 '05 #24
Oh yeah, and what's with not being able to configure the code completion
key sequence. How about *no* key sequence? That's the way every other
IDE I've used does it. This is more like semi-automatic code completion.

--
Brian Beck
Adventurer of the First Order
Jul 19 '05 #25
Brian Beck wrote:
What version? PyDev has increased in maturity quite a bit lately.


I realize 0.9.3 is the latest release, but the installation fails
through the Eclipse updater:

Unable to complete action for feature "PyDev for Eclipse" due to errors.
Unable to create file
"/opt/eclipse-extensions-3/eclipse/plugins/org.python.pyde v_0.9.3/PySrc/SocketTestRunne r.py".
[/opt/eclipse-extensions-3/eclipse/plugins/org.python.pyde v_0.9.3/PySrc/SocketTestRunne r.py
(No such file or directory)]

--
Brian Beck
Adventurer of the First Order
Jul 19 '05 #26
Brian Beck wrote:
I realize 0.9.3 is the latest release, but the installation fails
through the Eclipse updater:

Unable to complete action for feature "PyDev for Eclipse" due to errors.
Unable to create file
"/opt/eclipse-extensions-3/eclipse/plugins/org.python.pyde v_0.9.3/PySrc/SocketTestRunne r.py".
[/opt/eclipse-extensions-3/eclipse/plugins/org.python.pyde v_0.9.3/PySrc/SocketTestRunne r.py
(No such file or directory)]


Okay, sorry for spamming the newsgroup so much, but I installed 0.9.3
properly and the same issues I mentioned before persist. Code completion
for imports or locals don't work at all -- the space thing was PyDev
just listing all the built-ins, with none of my modules or locals
included in the list.

--
Brian Beck
Adventurer of the First Order
Jul 19 '05 #27
>>>>> "Brian" == Brian Beck <ex****@gmail.c om> writes:

Brian> Oh yeah, and what's with not being able to configure the
Brian> code completion key sequence. How about *no* key sequence?
Brian> That's the way every other IDE I've used does it. This is
Brian> more like semi-automatic code completion.

It works like that for me.

I type:

import os
os.<wait a second>

And I get the list of completions.

Perhaps you are just being impatient?

Also, make sure that Preferences/pydev/code completion has
"Autocomple te on '.'" box checked.

--
Ville Vainio http://tinyurl.com/2prnb
Jul 19 '05 #28
>>>>> "Brian" == Brian Beck <ex****@gmail.c om> writes:
Brian> Okay, sorry for spamming the newsgroup so much, but I
Brian> installed 0.9.3 properly and the same issues I mentioned
Brian> before persist. Code completion for imports or locals don't
Brian> work at all -- the space thing was PyDev just listing all
Brian> the built-ins, with none of my modules or locals included
Brian> in the list.

This is another thing that works fine for me. Have you tried starting
with an empty file to see whether there is something in your source
file that trips up pydev?

Whining at the pydev mailing list might work as well.

--
Ville Vainio http://tinyurl.com/2prnb
Jul 19 '05 #29
Ville Vainio wrote:
Perhaps you are just being impatient?

Also, make sure that Preferences/pydev/code completion has
"Autocomple te on '.'" box checked.


Yeah, that option is enabled. I actually just discovered that it does
work in the example you give and for other modules in the standard
library. But calls to standard library modules only occur maybe twice in
any of my big scripts... the problem is I've been trying code completion
with third-party modules and local classes, which still doesn't work.

--
Brian Beck
Adventurer of the First Order
Jul 19 '05 #30

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