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Which IDE is recommended?

Read through python site for programming tool, really plenty of choices :-)
(For c++, I just can't breath with very very limited choices)

Tried Spe, it come with wxGlade built-in very nice(is Spe still actively
develop?). But seem that Boa Constructor and PyDev(the plug-in for Eclipse)
also worth looking. Actually which one are you guys using? and why? I think
it is also valuable for those who are new to python as me.

Jul 19 '05
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monkey wrote:
Read through python site for programming tool, really plenty of choices :-)
(For c++, I just can't breath with very very limited choices)

Tried Spe, it come with wxGlade built-in very nice(is Spe still actively
develop?). But seem that Boa Constructor and PyDev(the plug-in for Eclipse)
also worth looking. Actually which one are you guys using? and why? I think
it is also valuable for those who are new to python as me.


Here's been my experience:

* Don't underestimate IDLE, it's surprisingly capable considering it's
just a dinky little thing

* PyDev isn't yet mature enough to make it practical for me

* SPE has great features, but the pure-Python-ness makes it slow! Even
just typing at a steady pace is slowed down due to all the name lookups.
Plus, I still haven't found a way to reset the built-in Python shell, so
if you run/import your module into it, you have to reload the entire app
to reuse the shell. del <module-name> doesn't help because the classes
will still be in the registry

* WingIDE is the most advanced by far, but isn't free. Its built-in
Python shell also suffers from not easily being able to test _the module
you're writing_ without a bunch of path switching. I remember the
interface feeling slow on Windows, but on Linux everything is snappy.
The quickness of the autocompletion for even seperate module members
amazes me

* If you're running KDE, KDevelop is very capable. The autocompletion is
very generic though, it'll happily complete any word you've typed
before. The auto-indentation isn't nearly as spot-on as WingIDE's

* I hate PythonWin or whatever it's called. Dunno what more to say

--
Brian Beck
Adventurer of the First Order
Jul 19 '05 #11
I really like eclipse + pydev

Regards,

Philippe

monkey wrote:
Read through python site for programming tool, really plenty of choices
:-) (For c++, I just can't breath with very very limited choices)

Tried Spe, it come with wxGlade built-in very nice(is Spe still actively
develop?). But seem that Boa Constructor and PyDev(the plug-in for
Eclipse) also worth looking. Actually which one are you guys using? and
why? I think it is also valuable for those who are new to python as me.


Jul 19 '05 #12
djw
monkey wrote:
Read through python site for programming tool, really plenty of choices :-)
(For c++, I just can't breath with very very limited choices)

Tried Spe, it come with wxGlade built-in very nice(is Spe still actively
develop?). But seem that Boa Constructor and PyDev(the plug-in for Eclipse)
also worth looking. Actually which one are you guys using? and why? I think
it is also valuable for those who are new to python as me.

Eric3 for big stuff.
SciTE for small stuff.

Jul 19 '05 #13
> * Don't underestimate IDLE, it's surprisingly capable considering it's
just a dinky little thing
Yes, I believe IDLE is the a unbeatible last resort for python (-:
* SPE has great features, but the pure-Python-ness makes it slow!


Is it related to wxpython you mean? or program with GUI in tk (the default
installed with python) is faster? Would you mind to tell me more...
Jul 19 '05 #14
jeff elkins wrote:

Is Boa actively used? There doesn't seem to be much activity its mailing list.
The tutorial fails for me using python 2.3.5, wxpython 2.5.3.2 and Boa 0.4.0
under debian sid.

Jeff

Boa is not a dead project if that's your concern, maybe it's not getting
a lot of attention, but the cvs is getting some decent activity, 0.4.x
was recently released, and I've seen some bug reports being fixed in cvs
quite fast too.

It's really a great product if you can live with its poor documentation
and its constraint-oriented design (as opposed to sizer oriented)
yes I know it supports sizers, but it wasn't designed for it, and you'll
probably end up manually coding the sizers because the built-in support
is really weird.

anyway, I consider boa the best rad tool for wxpython, it could be
better.. but it's still the best of its kind imho.

regards,
Alex Verstraeten.
Jul 19 '05 #15
monkey a écrit :
Read through python site for programming tool, really plenty of choices :-)
(For c++, I just can't breath with very very limited choices)

Tried Spe, it come with wxGlade built-in very nice(is Spe still actively
develop?). But seem that Boa Constructor and PyDev(the plug-in for Eclipse)
also worth looking. Actually which one are you guys using? and why? I think
it is also valuable for those who are new to python as me.

emacs + ECB + python-mode.
Jul 19 '05 #16
I used Boa for a Win32 project. It helped me enormously. It's very easy
to design windows etc. But the generated python code is not beautiful.

Jul 19 '05 #17
On 2005-04-27, monkey <m@m.com> wrote:
Read through python site for programming tool, really plenty of choices :-)
(For c++, I just can't breath with very very limited choices)

Tried Spe, it come with wxGlade built-in very nice(is Spe still actively
develop?). But seem that Boa Constructor and PyDev(the plug-in for Eclipse)
also worth looking. Actually which one are you guys using? and why? I think
it is also valuable for those who are new to python as me.


Pydev has some compelling features, but I wish I didn't have to run eclipse
to get them. I use XEmacs. Once upon a time emacs was considered bloated,
but it's tiny compared to eclipse.

Dave Cook
Jul 19 '05 #18
>>>>> "pydev" == Brian Beck <ex****@gmail.c om> writes:

pydev> * PyDev isn't yet mature enough to make it practical for me

What version? PyDev has increased in maturity quite a bit lately.

--
Ville Vainio http://tinyurl.com/2prnb
Jul 19 '05 #19
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:17:13 -0400, Bill Mill <bi*******@gmai l.com>
wrote:
On 4/27/05, monkey <m@m.com> wrote:
Read through python site for programming tool, really plenty of choices :-)
(For c++, I just can't breath with very very limited choices)

Tried Spe, it come with wxGlade built-in very nice(is Spe still actively
develop?). But seem that Boa Constructor and PyDev(the plug-in for Eclipse)
also worth looking. Actually which one are you guys using? and why? I think
it is also valuable for those who are new to python as me.


Believe it or not, this has been discussed before :)


But nevertheless interesting again and again :)

--
Franz Steinhäusler
http://drpython.sourceforge.net/
http://mitglied.lycos.de/drpython/
Jul 19 '05 #20

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