Tom Lane heads up

[DeJuan Jackson]

Just dropping a quick not for Tom Lane. I sent a personal message
today, but I wasn't sure if you'd get it after I remembered all of the
spam filters you've got set up.

Sorry for the off topic post.

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[Shachar Shemesh]

DeJuan Jackson wrote:

Just dropping a quick not for Tom Lane. I sent a personal message
today, but I wasn't sure if you'd get it after I remembered all of the
spam filters you've got set up.

Sorry for the off topic post.

That's ok. He is only filtering me :-)

Actually, you get a rejection notice if his spam filters catch you. If
you didn't get one, your'e ok.

Shachar

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[Will Trillich]

On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 01:19:13PM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote:

DeJuan Jackson wrote:

I sent a personal message today, but I wasn't sure if you'd
get it after I remembered all of the spam filters you've got
set up.

Actually, you get a rejection notice if his spam filters catch
you. If you didn't get one, you're ok.

is there some way of getting a look at tom's or marc's filters? i could
sure use a bit of help there. lordy, we're close to drowing in the
stuff!

if it's in the archives already, i apparently didn't hit the
right search string. a quickie pointer is all i need...

thanks in advance!

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[Marc G. Fournier]

On Mon, 19 Apr 2004, Will Trillich wrote:

On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 01:19:13PM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote:

DeJuan Jackson wrote:

I sent a personal message today, but I wasn't sure if you'd
get it after I remembered all of the spam filters you've got
set up.

Actually, you get a rejection notice if his spam filters catch
you. If you didn't get one, you're ok.

is there some way of getting a look at tom's or marc's filters? i could
sure use a bit of help there. lordy, we're close to drowing in the
stuff!

Huh? I just use Spamassassin myself, with Razor/Pyzor/DCC and Bayes all
enabled ...

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[Joe Conway]

Marc G. Fournier wrote:

Huh? I just use Spamassassin myself, with Razor/Pyzor/DCC and Bayes all
enabled ...

I use exactly the same setup. But recently I've noticed that the
spammers are getting smarter -- I think 20% of it is slipping by the
filters. I'm going to need something better.

Joe

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[Bruce Momjian]

Joe Conway wrote:

Marc G. Fournier wrote:

Huh? I just use Spamassassin myself, with Razor/Pyzor/DCC and Bayes all
enabled ...

I use exactly the same setup. But recently I've noticed that the
spammers are getting smarter -- I think 20% of it is slipping by the
filters. I'm going to need something better.

Here is what I use:

http://candle.pha.pa.us/main/writings/spam/

I get 98% blockage with no false positives, or at least only 1-2 a year
(that folks tell me about). :-)

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[Jim Wilson]

Tom Lane said:

Will Trillich <wi**@serensoft .com> writes:

is there some way of getting a look at tom's or marc's filters? i could
sure use a bit of help there. lordy, we're close to drowing in the
stuff!

Tell me about it :-(

I currently use four levels of filtering:

1. DNSBL lists: blackholes.five-ten-sg.com, bl.spamcop.net, relays.ordb.org
(there are others out there, but these seem to have a good impedance
match to my personal spam load).

2. Private blacklist of IP ranges that have sent me too much spam.
sendmail has a pretty easy mechanism to support this, although it
only seems to support /8 /16 or /24 ranges which is a bit coarse.
(If you've gotten a "Go away spammer" bounce from me, you were caught
by this filter --- let me know and I'll tighten the ranges.)

3. I have noticed that bouncing any machine that sends "HELO
sss.pgh.pa.us" gets rid of a ton of spam and viruses. I don't know of
any real clean way to do this, but I have a sendmail.cf hack for it.

4. Very long list of procmail filters on header and body patterns.

#2 and #4 are fairly personal, in the sense that they have a decent
success/failure ratio for the junk mail I get. I wouldn't recommend
that someone else try my lists, and in any case they take a heck of a
lot of hand maintenance. I've been looking into more automated methods
such as CRM114 but haven't made the jump yet.

Yes they sure are. I tried my personal blacklist on a client's server one
time after they complained of seeing dozens a minute slipping by. It did just
about nothing, but it got them started on their own. #3 looks interesting
though...

Best regards,

Jim Wilson
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[Tom Lane]

Will Trillich <wi**@serensoft .com> writes:

is there some way of getting a look at tom's or marc's filters? i could
sure use a bit of help there. lordy, we're close to drowing in the
stuff!

Tell me about it :-(

I currently use four levels of filtering:

1. DNSBL lists: blackholes.five-ten-sg.com, bl.spamcop.net, relays.ordb.org
(there are others out there, but these seem to have a good impedance
match to my personal spam load).

2. Private blacklist of IP ranges that have sent me too much spam.
sendmail has a pretty easy mechanism to support this, although it
only seems to support /8 /16 or /24 ranges which is a bit coarse.
(If you've gotten a "Go away spammer" bounce from me, you were caught
by this filter --- let me know and I'll tighten the ranges.)

3. I have noticed that bouncing any machine that sends "HELO
sss.pgh.pa.us" gets rid of a ton of spam and viruses. I don't know of
any real clean way to do this, but I have a sendmail.cf hack for it.

4. Very long list of procmail filters on header and body patterns.

#2 and #4 are fairly personal, in the sense that they have a decent
success/failure ratio for the junk mail I get. I wouldn't recommend
that someone else try my lists, and in any case they take a heck of a
lot of hand maintenance. I've been looking into more automated methods
such as CRM114 but haven't made the jump yet.

regards, tom lane

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[Keith C. Perry]

Quoting Tom Lane <tg*@sss.pgh.pa .us>:

Will Trillich <wi**@serensoft .com> writes:

is there some way of getting a look at tom's or marc's filters? i could
sure use a bit of help there. lordy, we're close to drowing in the
stuff!

Tell me about it :-(

I currently use four levels of filtering:

1. DNSBL lists: blackholes.five-ten-sg.com, bl.spamcop.net, relays.ordb.org
(there are others out there, but these seem to have a good impedance
match to my personal spam load).

2. Private blacklist of IP ranges that have sent me too much spam.
sendmail has a pretty easy mechanism to support this, although it
only seems to support /8 /16 or /24 ranges which is a bit coarse.
(If you've gotten a "Go away spammer" bounce from me, you were caught
by this filter --- let me know and I'll tighten the ranges.)

There is a sendmail script for this called "cidrexpand " that allows you to put
in CIDR blocks- i.e. things like 216.185.96.0/19 can be put into the sendmail
access file.

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Director of Networks & Applications
VCSN, Inc.
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[Marc G. Fournier]

On Mon, 19 Apr 2004, Will Trillich wrote:

On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 01:19:13PM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote:

DeJuan Jackson wrote:

I sent a personal message today, but I wasn't sure if you'd
get it after I remembered all of the spam filters you've got
set up.

Actually, you get a rejection notice if his spam filters catch
you. If you didn't get one, you're ok.

is there some way of getting a look at tom's or marc's filters? i could
sure use a bit of help there. lordy, we're close to drowing in the
stuff!

Huh? I just use Spamassassin myself, with Razor/Pyzor/DCC and Bayes all
enabled ...

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Email: sc*****@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664

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