Is it possible that in some future version of Windows, only .NET (CLR) PE
(Portable Executables) .exe will be enabled to run. I.e. the OS will not
support running of native x86 code .exes/dlls?
I understand native is needed for drivers etc. but at some point the driver
spec may even require MSIL and MSIL will add instructions to support drivers.
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Greg McPherran www.McPherran.com 14  1382 
I don't think so.
All the industry, including microsoft, is very keen on backward
compatibility.
Think of it this way: you could upgrade to the latest Windows 2023 (Formerly
know as Vista Reloaded), but your favorite old DOS games you play in the
90ies still work...
And if it doesn't you sure will get customer complaints!....
--
Regards,
Lloyd Dupont
NovaMind development team
NovaMind Software
Mind Mapping Software
<www.nova-mind.com>
"Greg" <gm@mcpherran.c om> wrote in message
news:58******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com... Is it possible that in some future version of Windows, only .NET (CLR) PE
(Portable Executables) .exe will be enabled to run. I.e. the OS will not
support running of native x86 code .exes/dlls?
I understand native is needed for drivers etc. but at some point the
driver
spec may even require MSIL and MSIL will add instructions to support
drivers.
--
Greg McPherran
www.McPherran.com
> I don't think so. All the industry, including microsoft, is very keen on backward
compatibility.
I don't think so. Look at VB. All VB source code for native development from
the past can now only be built for .NET with recent versions of Visual Studio.
"Lloyd Dupont" <net.galador@ld > wrote in message
news:%2******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP14.phx.gbl. .. I don't think so.
All the industry, including microsoft, is very keen on backward
compatibility.
Please, sir.....do not partake of the wine before posting.
Think of it this way: you could upgrade to the latest Windows 2023
(Formerly know as Vista Reloaded), but your favorite old DOS games you
play in the 90ies still work...
And if it doesn't you sure will get customer complaints!....
A Microsoft rep had pity on me once and told me that unless enough people
complain about a problem it won;t even be addressed at Microsoft.
I hope those games remain popular for you - and don't cut into XBox sales.
Jim
No, it would likely make no sense as "native" code is the only thing the
processor understands. Historically programming is adding layers between the
processor and the developer but ultimately your code still have to reach the
processor under a suitable form ; you can generally "enter" at any level you
want ("debug.exe" is always part of XP)...
--
Patrice
"Greg" <gm@mcpherran.c om> a écrit dans le message de
news:58******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com... Is it possible that in some future version of Windows, only .NET (CLR) PE
(Portable Executables) .exe will be enabled to run. I.e. the OS will not
support running of native x86 code .exes/dlls?
I understand native is needed for drivers etc. but at some point the
driver spec may even require MSIL and MSIL will add instructions to support
drivers.
--
Greg McPherran
www.McPherran.com
>> I don't think so. All the industry, including microsoft, is very keen on backward
compatibility.
I don't think so. Look at VB. All VB source code for native development
from
the past can now only be built for .NET with recent versions of Visual
Studio.
I don't understand what you're saying at all.
Are you telling me that: "Microsoft is not keen on backward technology
because latest technology need latest compiler to be compiled"?
There is no logical relation between the first part of the sentence and the
second I could see!!!
Allright, let's say only Microsft then is keen on backward compatibility.
To all the doom sayers and rumor mongers who spread rumor to the contrary I
reply that no software that I have kept since 1995 and like enough to still
use today has any problem to run.
Which includes:
- death rally DOS Game
- OpenStep development environment
- debug.exe 16bit assembly compiler
- Orion95 game
- Master of Magic (an other 1995 game)
- Corel Draw 3
- Word97
- gcc 2.95
I have yet to see these "famous backward incompatibility " that Microsoft is
supposed to be good at. So far I had ample proof of the contrary.
"Jim" <re***@groups.p lease> wrote in message
news:be******** *******@bignews 2.bellsouth.net ...
"Lloyd Dupont" <net.galador@ld > wrote in message
news:%2******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP14.phx.gbl. ..I don't think so.
All the industry, including microsoft, is very keen on backward
compatibility.
Please, sir.....do not partake of the wine before posting.
Think of it this way: you could upgrade to the latest Windows 2023
(Formerly know as Vista Reloaded), but your favorite old DOS games you
play in the 90ies still work...
And if it doesn't you sure will get customer complaints!....
A Microsoft rep had pity on me once and told me that unless enough people
complain about a problem it won;t even be addressed at Microsoft.
I hope those games remain popular for you - and don't cut into XBox sales.
Jim
After reflection. to be fair, I have WinXP.
It's true that backward compatibility was not paramount with WinNT & Win2000
But XP is more recent that NT or 2000, so I think it's a moot point.
"Jim" <re***@groups.p lease> wrote in message
news:be******** *******@bignews 2.bellsouth.net ...
"Lloyd Dupont" <net.galador@ld > wrote in message
news:%2******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP14.phx.gbl. ..I don't think so.
All the industry, including microsoft, is very keen on backward
compatibility.
Please, sir.....do not partake of the wine before posting.
Think of it this way: you could upgrade to the latest Windows 2023
(Formerly know as Vista Reloaded), but your favorite old DOS games you
play in the 90ies still work...
And if it doesn't you sure will get customer complaints!....
A Microsoft rep had pity on me once and told me that unless enough people
complain about a problem it won;t even be addressed at Microsoft.
I hope those games remain popular for you - and don't cut into XBox sales.
Jim
You are missing my point. Windows could cease to provide access to the CPU.
Try accessing the CPU on a video game system for example.
Windows may simply take away all utilities and .exe formats that access the
CPU directly. Yes, you could always boot into another OS, but Windows itself
could be set up to not allow access to the CPU.
--
Greg McPherran www.McPherran.com
"Patrice" wrote: No, it would likely make no sense as "native" code is the only thing the
processor understands. Historically programming is adding layers between the
processor and the developer but ultimately your code still have to reach the
processor under a suitable form ; you can generally "enter" at any level you
want ("debug.exe" is always part of XP)...
--
Patrice
"Greg" <gm@mcpherran.c om> a écrit dans le message de
news:58******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com... Is it possible that in some future version of Windows, only .NET (CLR) PE
(Portable Executables) .exe will be enabled to run. I.e. the OS will not
support running of native x86 code .exes/dlls?
I understand native is needed for drivers etc. but at some point the
driver spec may even require MSIL and MSIL will add instructions to support
drivers.
--
Greg McPherran
www.McPherran.com
"Lloyd Dupont" <net.galador@ld > wrote in message
news:e9******** *****@TK2MSFTNG P12.phx.gbl... I don't think so.
All the industry, including microsoft, is very keen on backward
compatibility. I don't think so. Look at VB. All VB source code for native development
from
the past can now only be built for .NET with recent versions of Visual
Studio.
I don't understand what you're saying at all.
Are you telling me that: "Microsoft is not keen on backward technology
because latest technology need latest compiler to be compiled"?
What the poster is frerring to is the fact that most Visual Basic 6
applications must be completely re-written to be used in the VB.Net
compiler. Microsoft intentionaly broke backwards compatability with Visual
Basic 6 source code when they designed VB.Net.
They abandoned millions of VB programmers and billions of lines of code with
a single stab in the back.
There is no logical relation between the first part of the sentence and
the second I could see!!!
I hope this had made it clearer for you.
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