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Hi

How do developers that use the SDK (not full-blown VS IDE) create dialog
boxes?
Do they type out the DIALOG resource section of the .rc file manually? Use a
third-party program? Or cheat, and hop on a mate's PC that has got VS IDE
whenever they want to create a dialog box?
Or do they use a dialog editor that is actually included in the SDK that I'm
failing to find?

If anyone is going to say that yes there is a dialog editor in the SDK (or
Visual C++ toolkit?) then please could you state what version etc. it is and
where to download it from as if that is the case then I would like that
version, as I am currently using Visual Studio .NET 2005 Beta 1 SDK, however,
it appears to contain no dialog editor.
Nov 17 '05 #1
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I use Borland's oooold Resource Workshop.

Unfortunately, this was given up after (I think) 1994, but it still works
for my aims.

Christian

"Bonj" <Bo**@discussio ns.microsoft.co m> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Hi

How do developers that use the SDK (not full-blown VS IDE) create dialog
boxes?
Do they type out the DIALOG resource section of the .rc file manually? Use a third-party program? Or cheat, and hop on a mate's PC that has got VS IDE
whenever they want to create a dialog box?
Or do they use a dialog editor that is actually included in the SDK that I'm failing to find?

If anyone is going to say that yes there is a dialog editor in the SDK (or
Visual C++ toolkit?) then please could you state what version etc. it is and where to download it from as if that is the case then I would like that
version, as I am currently using Visual Studio .NET 2005 Beta 1 SDK, however, it appears to contain no dialog editor.

Nov 17 '05 #2
In Visual C++ 6.0 or Visual Studio 2003 .NET if you start an "MFC
Application" project, then in the Resource Editor you can edit dialogs. I
don't know whether this fits your needs.
"Bonj" <Bo**@discussio ns.microsoft.co m> wrote in message
news:02******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...
Hi

How do developers that use the SDK (not full-blown VS IDE) create dialog
boxes?
Do they type out the DIALOG resource section of the .rc file manually? Use a third-party program? Or cheat, and hop on a mate's PC that has got VS IDE
whenever they want to create a dialog box?
Or do they use a dialog editor that is actually included in the SDK that I'm failing to find?

If anyone is going to say that yes there is a dialog editor in the SDK (or
Visual C++ toolkit?) then please could you state what version etc. it is and where to download it from as if that is the case then I would like that
version, as I am currently using Visual Studio .NET 2005 Beta 1 SDK, however, it appears to contain no dialog editor.

Nov 17 '05 #3
I did explicitly say "not full-blown VS IDE". I'm aware the VS IDE has got a
dialog editor.

"Agoston Bejo" <gu***@freemail .hu> wrote in message
news:%2******** ********@tk2msf tngp13.phx.gbl. ..
In Visual C++ 6.0 or Visual Studio 2003 .NET if you start an "MFC
Application" project, then in the Resource Editor you can edit dialogs. I
don't know whether this fits your needs.
"Bonj" <Bo**@discussio ns.microsoft.co m> wrote in message
news:02******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...
Hi

How do developers that use the SDK (not full-blown VS IDE) create dialog
boxes?
Do they type out the DIALOG resource section of the .rc file manually?
Use

a
third-party program? Or cheat, and hop on a mate's PC that has got VS IDE
whenever they want to create a dialog box?
Or do they use a dialog editor that is actually included in the SDK that

I'm
failing to find?

If anyone is going to say that yes there is a dialog editor in the SDK
(or
Visual C++ toolkit?) then please could you state what version etc. it is

and
where to download it from as if that is the case then I would like that
version, as I am currently using Visual Studio .NET 2005 Beta 1 SDK,

however,
it appears to contain no dialog editor.


Nov 17 '05 #4
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 06:01:08 -0800, "Bonj"
<Bo**@discussio ns.microsoft.co m> wrote:
Hi

How do developers that use the SDK (not full-blown VS IDE) create dialog
boxes?
Do they type out the DIALOG resource section of the .rc file manually? Use a
third-party program? Or cheat, and hop on a mate's PC that has got VS IDE
whenever they want to create a dialog box?
Or do they use a dialog editor that is actually included in the SDK that I'm
failing to find?


For me, none of the above. All my apps are dialog-based, and all my
dialogs size and position their controls based on the dimensions of
the dialog box. The framework I put together for myself includes
several functions that help. And I've developed some stock pieces that
size themselves and can be placed. So I usually don't need to position
many controls per dialog. I sometimes take a little longer to build a
new dialog. But I _rarely_ need to worry about screen size or shape. I
develop primarily for Windows CE and need to support several different
screen sizes and shapes, so this approach is _very_ helpful for me.
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Nov 17 '05 #5
I edit the .rc by hand. Usually by copying and pasting from other dialogs.

The Visual Studio editor can be unwieldy for large projects. Typically when
many people are editting the same resources you need to segment the id space
so people aren't always stepping on each other. I suppose you could do this
with VS but it's easier to do it in text.

Also to get the precise positioning required by the style guidelines, I
usually end up doing the math, rather than just dragging the controls
around.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
"Bonj" <Bo**@discussio ns.microsoft.co m> wrote in message
news:02******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...
Hi

How do developers that use the SDK (not full-blown VS IDE) create dialog
boxes?
Do they type out the DIALOG resource section of the .rc file manually? Use
a
third-party program? Or cheat, and hop on a mate's PC that has got VS IDE
whenever they want to create a dialog box?
Or do they use a dialog editor that is actually included in the SDK that
I'm
failing to find?

If anyone is going to say that yes there is a dialog editor in the SDK (or
Visual C++ toolkit?) then please could you state what version etc. it is
and
where to download it from as if that is the case then I would like that
version, as I am currently using Visual Studio .NET 2005 Beta 1 SDK,
however,
it appears to contain no dialog editor.

Nov 17 '05 #6
Good to hear!

Cheers

"Ken Wickes [MSFT]" <ke****@online. microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:eq******** *****@TK2MSFTNG P12.phx.gbl...
I edit the .rc by hand. Usually by copying and pasting from other dialogs.

The Visual Studio editor can be unwieldy for large projects. Typically
when many people are editting the same resources you need to segment the
id space so people aren't always stepping on each other. I suppose you
could do this with VS but it's easier to do it in text.

Also to get the precise positioning required by the style guidelines, I
usually end up doing the math, rather than just dragging the controls
around.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
"Bonj" <Bo**@discussio ns.microsoft.co m> wrote in message
news:02******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...
Hi

How do developers that use the SDK (not full-blown VS IDE) create dialog
boxes?
Do they type out the DIALOG resource section of the .rc file manually?
Use a
third-party program? Or cheat, and hop on a mate's PC that has got VS IDE
whenever they want to create a dialog box?
Or do they use a dialog editor that is actually included in the SDK that
I'm
failing to find?

If anyone is going to say that yes there is a dialog editor in the SDK
(or
Visual C++ toolkit?) then please could you state what version etc. it is
and
where to download it from as if that is the case then I would like that
version, as I am currently using Visual Studio .NET 2005 Beta 1 SDK,
however,
it appears to contain no dialog editor.


Nov 17 '05 #7

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