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Higer level code is always specialized and often full of unfixable bugs.


Hi Olaf_Baeyens ( and Linonut ),

Microsoft C++ is really it's latest version of MS_C,
as Microsoft is not supporting the latest C standard, C99.

cout and the STL are pure garbage and should not be used, I say.
All the same, I use C++ ( MS_C_7 )
as it allows be to declare variables in_between statements.

I also use C++'s & a lot as references look cleaner than pointers.

C has been around for a long time,
and will continue to be around long after C# and Java are forgotten.

The higer a language is,
e.g. VBA scripts in MS_Word, the shorter it's lifespan.

The problem with high_level languages like C# and Java
is that they never quite reach the status of being a genuine standard,
as few can agree on what the higher level stuff should look like.

Higer level code is always specialized and often full of unfixable bugs.

P.S. Experienced C coders don't require weeks just to create a button.

Nov 17 '05 #1
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Jeff_Relf wrote:
Hi Olaf_Baeyens ( and Linonut ),

Microsoft C++ is really it's latest version of MS_C,
as Microsoft is not supporting the latest C standard, C99.
First you're all like low-level and stuff, and then you subscribe to a
garbage language like c++

c is the answer and it always will be.

c/unix/linux is the lingua franca of the whole world.

all variants as pasty-faced dough languages for corporate pretty boys
who tote around UML diagrams in "architectu ral meetings".


cout and the STL are pure garbage and should not be used, I say.
All the same, I use C++ ( MS_C_7 )
as it allows be to declare variables in_between statements.

I also use C++'s & a lot as references look cleaner than pointers.

C has been around for a long time,
and will continue to be around long after C# and Java are forgotten.

The higer a language is,
e.g. VBA scripts in MS_Word, the shorter it's lifespan.

The problem with high_level languages like C# and Java
is that they never quite reach the status of being a genuine standard,
as few can agree on what the higher level stuff should look like.

Higer level code is always specialized and often full of unfixable bugs.

P.S. Experienced C coders don't require weeks just to create a button.

Nov 17 '05 #2

Hi Chinese_Pope, Ya writ: << C is the answer and it always will be. >>

And the most recent version of that, according to Microsoft, is C++,
because they're not going the C99 route.

C++ is just as low as C, because cout and the STL are optional.

Nov 17 '05 #3
> P.S. Experienced C coders don't require weeks just to create a button.

I was making it sounding a little bit more dramatic. :-)
I was not referring to the button itself, but about the code behind that
button that should interoperate with the user interface.
E.g. active feed-back like a status bar, progress bar,....

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Nov 17 '05 #4

Hi Olaf_Baeyens, Re: My comment that experienced C coders
don't require weeks just to create a button,

You told me: << I was making it sounding a little bit more dramatic. :-)
I was not referring to the button itself, but about the code behind that
button that should interoperate with the user interface.
E.g. active feed-back like a status bar, progress bar. >>

It takes years to really perfect code,
because testing dwarfs the time it took to bang out the code.

During those years, short-sighted compromises,
like using C#, Java, COM or HTML, can come back to bite you,
....beacuse the C++ guy could sneek up behind you and offer a better product.

Nov 17 '05 #5
> First you're all like low-level and stuff, and then you subscribe to a
garbage language like c++

c is the answer and it always will be.

c/unix/linux is the lingua franca of the whole world.


How odd that a lot of people claming that C is the top and linux is the top
tend to use fake names in the posts?
And that people that are more realistic actually are more brave to user
their real names.

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http://www.skyscan.be
Nov 17 '05 #6
begin virus.scr Olaf Baeyens wrote:
First you're all like low-level and stuff, and then you subscribe to a
garbage language like c++

c is the answer and it always will be.

c/unix/linux is the lingua franca of the whole world.


How odd that a lot of people claming that C is the top and linux is the
top tend to use fake names in the posts?
And that people that are more realistic actually are more brave to user
their real names.


How come that you think that JBailo is actually a linux user?
Nov 17 '05 #7
On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 01:18:27 -0700, American Pope
<am***********@ vatican.us> wrote:
Jeff_Relf wrote:
Hi Olaf_Baeyens ( and Linonut ),

Microsoft C++ is really it's latest version of MS_C,
as Microsoft is not supporting the latest C standard, C99.


First you're all like low-level and stuff, and then you subscribe to a
garbage language like c++

c is the answer and it always will be.

c/unix/linux is the lingua franca of the whole world.

all variants as pasty-faced dough languages for corporate pretty boys
who tote around UML diagrams in "architectu ral meetings".

:

Real men program in machine code through binary toggle switches on
front panels.
'C' is for wimps.
Nov 17 '05 #8

Hi Olaf_Baeyens ( and Peter_Kohlmann, Bailo ),

You asked: << Odd, why would somone name a screen saver with my name in it
and send as an attachment it to this newsgroup ? >>

Pete started his post with: << begin virus.scr Olaf Baeyens wrote: >>
I he does that because of his brain tumor, I believe.

Also, Pete, as a demo of Linux's Knode in action,
redirected your post to parts unknown... again, I blame it on his tumor.

You asked: << How odd that a lot of people claming that C is the top
and linux is the top tend to use fake names in the posts ?
And that people that are more realistic
actually are more brave to user their real names. >>

Jeff_Relf is my given name, I was born in Seattle at the start of 1960.
Bailo, a.k.a. Chinese_Pope, is a rapid nymshifter in Comp.OS.Linux.A dvocacy .

C# might well be the best language for certain things,
just not the things that do.

Nov 17 '05 #9

Hi Michael_Gray, Ya writ: << Real men program in machine code
through binary toggle switches on front panels. C is for wimps. >>

No, Real men design and forge their own CPUs, using ores dug out by hand.

Nov 17 '05 #10

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