Guys, I see a fair bit of negativity around re subject package. Can
someone share your views, either way?
Thanks,
AS
Feb 15 '08
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Peter Michaux said the following on 2/17/2008 2:53 AM:
On Feb 16, 11:41 pm, Peter Michaux <petermich...@g mail.comwrote:
>On Feb 16, 11:35 pm, Randy Webb <HikksNotAtH... @aol.comwrote:
>>Peter Michaux said the following on 2/17/2008 2:30 AM:
On Feb 16, 11:21 pm, FAQEditor <clj...@comcast .netwrote:
<snip>
What are some of the problems with general purpose javascript libraries?
The consensus of regular posters in comp.lang.javas cript hold the view
that most, if not all, general purpose libraries are of a sufficient
"mainstrea m, downloadable general purpose"?
I think that implies, or might, that non-mainstream libraries don't
suffer many of the problems that mainstream libraries do.
Well, if it isn't right, we can be sure Dr Stockton will mention it to
you soon and frequently.
>>>I think it is close enough to the group regular's general feeling. I
don't particularly agree with the social skills displayed in the
threads to be linked but they sure do express the sentiment of the
most vocal regulars.
You going to volunteer to hunt and weed out the threads for links?
I can find some.
I didn't say I was going to spend my life compiling them all.
No, no need to do that.
These are ones I remember and all involve regulars and the general
opinions in the group. In some of the threads more than one library is
mentioned but I've grouped by the library that took the hardest hit.
Prototype
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....1f03af63cc81c2
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....72e63631688fc4
jQuery
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....5949d1bcce6e6a
YUI
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....fce445673d7135
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....c2a1b93d566b74
I have saved this post so I don't lose the links. Thank you.
--
Randy
comp.lang.javas cript FAQ - http://jibbering.com/faq/index.html
FAQ Notes: http://www.jibbering.com/faq/faq_notes/faq_notes.html
ECMAScript Language Specification via FAQ2.6
Gregor Kofler wrote:
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn meinte:
>John Resig wrote:
[snip]
I doubt that he is reading this reply...
Don't bet on that. How do you think he found the signature in the first
place if not looking himself up on Google? The reply(s) may be found in the
same way.
Richard.
Gregor Kofler said the following on 2/18/2008 3:39 AM:
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn meinte:
>John Resig wrote:
[snip]
I doubt that he is reading this reply...
That's his loss. John Resig could learn a lot from this group and this
thread in particular.
--
Randy
Chance Favors The Prepared Mind
comp.lang.javas cript FAQ - http://jibbering.com/faq/index.html
Javascript Best Practices - http://www.JavascriptToolbox.com/bestpractices/
On Feb 18, 5:01*am, Randy Webb <HikksNotAtH... @aol.comwrote:
Gregor Kofler said the following on 2/18/2008 3:39 AM:
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn meinte:
John Resig wrote:
[snip]
I doubt that he is reading this reply...
That's his loss. John Resig could learn a lot from this group and this
thread in particular.
It is also the loss of anybody who relies on his code to build Web
pages and applications, their clients, and ultimately the unwitting
end-users. Then there are those who attempt to learn about JavaScript
and general browser scripting issues from studying his code, blogs,
books, etc.
Clearly his inability to come to terms with his own incompetence and
refusal to learn from those who know better results in damages that
are far-reaching and losses that are virtually incalculable.
Randy Webb meinte:
Gregor Kofler said the following on 2/18/2008 3:39 AM:
>Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn meinte:
>>John Resig wrote:
[snip]
I doubt that he is reading this reply...
That's his loss. John Resig could learn a lot from this group and this
thread in particular.
Well, since he is a self-proclaimed "JavaScript evangelist" (as a
non-native speaker I find such notions ...er... odd), I suppose he
relies on "believing" instead of "learning and understanding".
Gregor
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On Feb 18, 5:37*am, Gregor Kofler <use...@gregork ofler.atwrote:
Randy Webb meinte:
Gregor Kofler said the following on 2/18/2008 3:39 AM:
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn meinte:
John Resig wrote:
[snip]
I doubt that he is reading this reply...
That's his loss. John Resig could learn a lot from this group and this
thread in particular.
Well, since he is a self-proclaimed "JavaScript evangelist" (as a
LOL. I haven't heard that one before.
non-native speaker I find such notions ...er... odd), I suppose he
English is my first language and I don't know what that means either.
relies on "believing" instead of "learning and understanding".
Exactly. And he only preaches to his own choir. When addressing more
enlightened denominations (this group for example), he comes off as a
"JavaScript charlatan" and is quickly booed off the stage.
David Mark meinte:
>Well, since he is a self-proclaimed "JavaScript evangelist" (as a
LOL. I haven't heard that one before.
Here: http://ejohn.org/about/
Since he is the "JavaScript Evangelist for the Mozilla Corporation" I
should reconsider my using of Firefox... But then: Perhaps he's just the
professional guinea pig for debugging add-ons like FireBug.
Gregor
-- http://photo.gregorkofler.at ::: Landschafts- und Reisefotografie http://web.gregorkofler.com ::: meine JS-Spielwiese http://www.image2d.com ::: Bildagentur für den alpinen Raum
On Feb 18, 2:37*am, Gregor Kofler <use...@gregork ofler.atwrote:
>
Well, since he is a self-proclaimed "JavaScript evangelist" (as a
non-native speaker I find such notions ...er... odd), I suppose he
relies on "believing" instead of "learning and understanding".
Gregor
Evangelism primarily refers to Christianity, but is also defined as
enthusiasm. He is claiming to be a JS enthusiast or fanatic rather
than a "believer," which would not make much sense in this context.
Unless there is JavaScript in the Bible Code somewhere ;-) http://www.google.com/search?q=progr...age+evangelist to***********@g mail.com meinte:
Evangelism primarily refers to Christianity, but is also defined as
enthusiasm.
He is claiming to be a JS enthusiast or fanatic rather
than a "believer," which would not make much sense in this context.
Well, the *others* (must be "JS disciples" then) have to believe. clj
regulars are mere heretics.
Gregor
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