Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said the following on 1/20/2008 6:32 PM:
Randy Webb wrote:
>Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said the following on 1/20/2008 2:24 PM:
>>Peter Michaux wrote:
<URL: http://groups.google.c om/group/comp.lang.javas cript/msg/76e2debc87edaf1 0>
It works, but it makes little sense, if any. Despite what Google Groups and
other mirrors want you to believe, Usenet is not on the Web.
Nobody said Usenet is on the Web. The archives for Usenet are on the Web
though. And that is what Peter linked to was the archive of that post.
Several, but not all, Usenet archives are available via the Web.
Nobody said there weren't any available on the Web.
Those that are on the Web are neither complete, nor do they always present the original
article.
Can you show an instance where Google Groups didn't present the original
article?
Google Groups in its current form makes no exception.
Example? I am not referring to you trying to cancel a message and it
getting archived anyway. I am asking you for an instance where GG did
not present the original article. Meaning, Google Groups modified it in
some way.
There is one thing GG does, and that is adding trailing spaces.
Furthermore, Web archives are not required to access an article that was
posted only a few days ago; there is no public news server that has such a
short expiration setting.
We are not discussing "Web archives" and some that won't "show an
article a few days ago". We are discussing Google Groups and the ability
to use Google Groups as a reference to an older article.
And if my articles eventually expire, both will only be available in the
archives, be they public or private.
Nobody said any differently.
Nothing you have said is any more true/false about web archives than
Usenet servers.
In fact, my (Google) research showed that providers of public Usenet
archives have been going to great lengths to support `news:' URIs in
the way I posted as being rewritten to links to their archives.
Nobody said any differently. What I said was that your style of
referring to old posts is unreliable. Posting a URL to a Google copy of
it is.
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