what's wrong with ajax?

[G Matthew J]

interesting "signal vs. noise" blog entry:

http://37signals.com/svn/archives2/w..._with_ajax.php

[Razzbar]

Zif wrote:

But of course, 'no names, no packdrill' ... hard to refute hearsay.
Here's the story, which I haven't digested so won't comment on.
http://jgwebber.blogspot.com/2005/01...ike-sieve.html
When your C++ programs swallowed all available memory, did you blame the
language or the shitty programmer who couldn't code any better?
When I write it, all the bugs are my own bugs. I always trust my
compiler unconditionally . It's just not possible for a compiler to
produce buggy code. They're written by professionals, after all.
And how, spefically, does JavaScript or AJAX have any bearing on why
your script can't read your XML? AJAX isn't a 'black box', it's a new
name for an old design paradigm. It isn't a thing, or a bit of
software, it's 4 words (or three words and an acronym).
Oh, it's harder, trust me. I'm so new at this I can only think of one
example, where typo in a server script generated an error message
instead of the JS code I wanted to eval(). Normally, I would have seen
the error message. In this case, it just didn't work. All the JS
console in FF would tell me was that it was an error in the function
that made the call. So I did it another way that didn't use eval().

"doc, it hurts when I do this"
"then don't do that"
"but then how am I gonna..."
And that is a new problem? It certainly isn't unique to AJAX (or any web
technology), though the web does present different issues.

Yes, and it's different from much of the past web programming
experience. Normally, when everything happens in a script on a page,
you can put debugging statements that e.g. pop up an alert() or
whatever. Normally, your server generates a page that you can examine.

This new thing (I don't like the term AJAX) is what I've always wanted;
to be able to request a chunk of content from the server, instead of a
whole document. It's an obvious thing to do. It's amazing it's taken so
long to be discovered.