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http://www.geo cities.com/seanmhall2003/css3/compat.html

Anyone know if Firefox, say, implements just a tad more CSS3 than
this?

I was thinking of downloading. It's free, unlike Opera.

Looks interesting, however.
Jul 20 '05
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On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 19:37:06 -0400, Firas <us****@firasd. org> wrote:

Oh please. This is arbitary. I know users who like coloured scrollbars.


When you say that they "like" coloured scrollbars, are you claiming
that it makes them happy to see them?

I'd find it very hard to believe that someone would, for example,
prefer one site over another purely because one had a blue scrollbar
while the other had the standard, Windows-provided scrollbar.

Sure, it can sometimes look pretty, but I really can't imagine any
user saying "Dang, I really wish this shopping site had a pink
scrollbar."

Oh well.

-Claire
Jul 20 '05 #21
Claire Tucker schrieb:
On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 19:37:06 -0400, Firas <us****@firasd. org> wrote:
Oh please. This is arbitary. I know users who like coloured scrollbars.


When you say that they "like" coloured scrollbars, are you claiming
that it makes them happy to see them?


I use colored scrollbars on one site
http://www.kgu.de/zfg/geburtshilfe/
and I really don't think it does much harm and it definitly looks
nice. But it is only an inline scrollbar, not the one of the main
window of course.

Greetings, Jan

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Jul 20 '05 #22
Jan Steffen wrote:

I use colored scrollbars on one site
http://www.kgu.de/zfg/geburtshilfe/
and I really don't think it does much harm and it definitly looks
nice. But it is only an inline scrollbar, not the one of the main
window of course.


Relax, because whatever you do, you are using the Comic Sans font on
that page -- which means things can't get worse :)
http://www.bancomicsans.com/home.html

PS: Introducing background Midis and animated GIFs would add to the
overall atmosphere...
Jul 20 '05 #23
Abby Hart wrote:
Besides ... style sheets can be loaded in 'chapters' so why not ie_body.css
and nn_body.css + the_rest.css and then use a browser sniffer

what kind of browser sniffing ? With the User-Agent ? It's really stupid.
Jul 20 '05 #24
Claire Tucker wrote:
On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 19:37:06 -0400, Firas <us****@firasd. org> wrote:
Oh please. This is arbitary. I know users who like coloured scrollbars.
Sure, it can sometimes look pretty, but I really can't imagine any
user saying "Dang, I really wish this shopping site had a pink
scrollbar."

Oh well.

-Claire


Huh? I meant yes, it looks pretty and hence they like it. It's a mostly
subtle enhancement, like :hover, say--not every visual hint has to be
desperately desired by the user to be appreciated.

Not that I've ever done it, but I think a lot of us markup geeks forget
that packaged, well-designed stuff looks nice to people (even wholly
flash sites.)
Jul 20 '05 #25
On 2 Jun 2004 16:35:23 GMT, Philipp Lenssen <in**@outer-court.com> wrote:
Relax, because whatever you do, you are using the Comic Sans font on
that page -- which means things can't get worse :)
http://www.bancomicsans.com/home.html
Though I just saw a website the other day which implied that on Windows
machines, Comic Sans is more widely available than TNR.
PS: Introducing background Midis and animated GIFs would add to the
overall atmosphere...


Rising bubbles and lots of fire!
Jul 20 '05 #26
Neal wrote:
On 2 Jun 2004 16:35:23 GMT, Philipp Lenssen <in**@outer-court.com> wrote:
PS: Introducing background Midis and animated GIFs would add to the
overall atmosphere...


Rising bubbles and lots of fire!


A crumpled paper background and a rotating globe for e-mail always add a
touch of class . . .

P
Jul 20 '05 #27
On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 09:09:11 +0100, Phil Evans
<RE************ *********@phile vans.haddock.co m> wrote:
Neal wrote:
On 2 Jun 2004 16:35:23 GMT, Philipp Lenssen <in**@outer-court.com>
wrote:
PS: Introducing background Midis and animated GIFs would add to the
overall atmosphere...


Rising bubbles and lots of fire!


A crumpled paper background and a rotating globe for e-mail always add a
touch of class . . .

P

No, no. The email link is a mailbox "eating" a letter. The rotating globe
just lets the visitor know they are on the Internet!!11!
Jul 20 '05 #28
Abby Hart wrote:
and then use a browser sniffer ... that way sniffy gecko-geeks
won't get all outraged when they peek at the code


Since it is trivial to fake a ua string, this doesn't seem like
terribly useful advice.

--
Brian (remove ".invalid" to email me)

Jul 20 '05 #29
Firas wrote:
Phil Evans wrote:
Firas wrote:
I'm not relying on the rounded corners for site usability or
functionality, they're just an additional visual treat for people
who use gecko browsers.


Would you use scrollbar colouring as an additional visual treat for
those who use IE?


Not quite the same thing. There is little point in trying to mess with
the browser chrome. If you were reckless, you might really frighten
someone into thinking a virus is on the loose.
Here's mine, then. Gecko-specific extensions work *just* for gecko.
Indeed. But unless another browser adopts support for properties
beginning with "-moz," I can't see any problem with that. This is not
an endorsement for -moz properties, but an assessment of the possible
hazards.
It's not worse than using <marquee>
Except that css is optional, and html is not; rounded corners can be
changed by the user fairly easily, <marquee> can not; and rounded
corners on a box does not create a usability problem per se, while
<marquee> does.
(back when it wasn't even considered to be standardized) and
netscape-specific hacks. That got us into a huge mess, didn't it.
Indeed, because <marquee> attempts to make HTML into a presentational
language. What is Googlebot supposed to make of <marquee>? But what
has this to do with css?
This is not just ivory-tower theory; there's already this in the
works:
http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/WD-css3-bo...-border-radius.
I'm not sure whether Mozilla supports it or not, but they should
be pressed to.


That's sorta what the -moz property is. Since css 3 is not a
recommendation yet, they cannot support css3 properties as they appear
in the spec. After all, what if the property name is changed?

--
Brian (remove ".invalid" to email me)

Jul 20 '05 #30

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