CSS3?

[Mark Johnson]

http://www.geo cities.com/seanmhall2003/css3/compat.html

Anyone know if Firefox, say, implements just a tad more CSS3 than
this?

I was thinking of downloading. It's free, unlike Opera.

Looks interesting, however.

[dr. zoidberg]

Mark Johnson wrote:

http://www.geo cities.com/seanmhall2003/css3/compat.html

Anyone know if Firefox, say, implements just a tad more CSS3 than
this?

I was thinking of downloading. It's free, unlike Opera.

Looks interesting, however.

I haven't tested it fot CSS3 (?) but if Firefox dont support it, it will
soon. BTW Firefox is great for surfing, you should really try it.

[Barry Pearson]

Mark Johnson wrote:

http://www.geo cities.com/seanmhall2003/css3/compat.html

Anyone know if Firefox, say, implements just a tad more CSS3 than
this?

I was thinking of downloading. It's free, unlike Opera.

Looks interesting, however.

I can't resolve the above URL. Firefox implements some CSS3 (for example,
:lastchild).

But I can't find a use for this. People publishing websites tend to test them
in IE, for obvious reasons. So when I am looking at their websites, I might as
well use IE.

And when I am testing my own pages, there is no point in using CSS3, if only a
tiny proportion of people in the world use browsers that can handle it.

--
Barry Pearson
http://www.Barry.Pearson.name/photography/
http://www.BirdsAndAnimals.info/
http://www.ChildSupportAnalysis.co.uk/

[Mark Tranchant]

Barry Pearson wrote:

And when I am testing my own pages, there is no point in using CSS3, if only a
tiny proportion of people in the world use browsers that can handle it.

You can use it as a degradeable enhancement. Then when people try a real
browser, they can see the difference versus, say, Internet Explorer.

If everyone took your view, there'd be no progress.

--
Mark.

[Phil Evans]

Mark Tranchant wrote:

Barry Pearson wrote:

And when I am testing my own pages, there is no point in using CSS3,
if only a
tiny proportion of people in the world use browsers that can handle it.

You can use it as a degradeable enhancement. Then when people try a real
browser, they can see the difference versus, say, Internet Explorer.

If everyone took your view, there'd be no progress.

I tend to take this view. I've designed sites where the nav block has
-moz-rounded-corners on the :first-child and :last-child for example,
since a containing div with rounded corners allows the internal block's
corners to stick out. Makes things look a bit nicer for gecko users with
no (current ;) downside for IE users.

P

[Alan J. Flavell]

On Wed, 19 May 2004, Mark Tranchant wrote:

You can use it as a degradeable enhancement.
That's the theory, indeed. WWW-conforming client agents are supposed
to ignore any CSS constructs which they don't understand.
Then when people try a real
browser, they can see the difference versus, say, Internet Explorer.
History shows that IE will make a guess at anything which it doesn't
understand, and often enough turn it into a disaster.
If everyone took your view, there'd be no progress.

There are ways of hiding progress from those client agents which can't
handle it, hmmm?

all the best

[Barry Pearson]

Mark Tranchant wrote:

Barry Pearson wrote:

And when I am testing my own pages, there is no point in using CSS3,
if only a tiny proportion of people in the world use browsers that
can handle it.

You can use it as a degradeable enhancement. Then when people try a
real browser, they can see the difference versus, say, Internet
Explorer.

If everyone took your view, there'd be no progress.

When I want to change the world, I don't resort to futile gestures or
headbanging. I get onto television & radio to make my views known. I talk to
the press. I communicate with government ministers & members of parliament. I
work with lobby groups. I've given evidence to a parliamentary committee.

I can't make the world change according to how I develop my websites! I am
just one of many millions. So are you.

--
Barry Pearson
http://www.Barry.Pearson.name/photography/
http://www.BirdsAndAnimals.info/
http://www.ChildSupportAnalysis.co.uk/

[Mark Tranchant]

Barry Pearson wrote:

Mark Tranchant wrote:

If everyone took your view, there'd be no progress.

When I want to change the world, I don't resort to futile gestures or
headbanging. I get onto television & radio to make my views known. I talk to
the press. I communicate with government ministers & members of parliament. I
work with lobby groups. I've given evidence to a parliamentary committee.

What - advising them not to use IE?!

--
Mark

[Keith Bowes]

Barry Pearson wrote:

And when I am testing my own pages, there is no point in using CSS3, if only a
tiny proportion of people in the world use browsers that can handle it.

There's a definite chicken/egg problem here. But if many people enhance
their sites for modern browsers and advertise so, there may be positive
effects.

I guess people just get tired of this though; years ago, IE was in the
minority and everyone swooned and started using CSS, document.all, and a
bunch of other junk, but why not know? Evil software dictatorship that
everyone's too afraid to disobey?

But we're not changing the world. We're just enhancing the experience
of those who know better than use IE, and trying to educate those who
still use it.

[Firas]

Phil Evans wrote:

Mark Tranchant wrote:

You can use it as a degradeable enhancement. Then when people try a
real browser, they can see the difference versus, say, Internet Explorer.

I tend to take this view. I've designed sites where the nav block has
-moz-rounded-corners on the :first-child and :last-child for example

From the frying pan into the fire?