*:focus { outline: none }

[Chris Bradbury]

Hi,

I'm posting in this forum for the first time so if I break any conventions
or protocols I'm sorry.

I've attached this style:

*:focus { outline: none }

to a page but it doesn't remove the dotted lines (surrounding links that
have been 'hit') like it's supposed to.

http://www.arvonfoundation.org/test/new_index5.htm is the page with the
style attached.

http://www.arvonfoundation.org/test/...main_style.css is the
stylesheet.

Thanks for any help.

Chris Bradbury

[Anne van Kesteren]

Chris Bradbury wrote:

Hi,

I'm posting in this forum for the first time so if I break any conventions
or protocols I'm sorry.

I've attached this style:

*:focus { outline: none }

to a page but it doesn't remove the dotted lines (surrounding links that
have been 'hit') like it's supposed to.

http://www.arvonfoundation.org/test/new_index5.htm is the page with the
style attached.

http://www.arvonfoundation.org/test/...main_style.css is the
stylesheet.

Thanks for any help.

Chris Bradbury

AFAIK, this is not supported. Perhaps Safari does support it, but I
can't test it at the moment.

--
Anne van Kesteren
<http://www.annevankest eren.nl/>

[brucie]

in post <news:40******@ 212.67.96.135>
Chris Bradbury said:

I've attached this style:
*:focus { outline: none }
to a page but it doesn't remove the dotted lines (surrounding links that
have been 'hit') like it's supposed to.

why do you want to make it more difficult for people to navigate your
site?

--
brucie

[Chris Bradbury]

Hi Anne,

A colleague has used it with no problem. I also found this info which seems
to suggest it's supported:

http://www.phpfreaks.com/css_manual/...namic-outlines

Also tried this different approach:

http://www.liquidpulse.net/code/129

but...didn't work!

TIA
Chris

"Anne van Kesteren" <ma**@annevanke steren.nl> wrote in message
news:bt******** **@reader11.wxs .nl...

Chris Bradbury wrote:

Hi,

I'm posting in this forum for the first time so if I break any conventions or protocols I'm sorry.

I've attached this style:

*:focus { outline: none }

to a page but it doesn't remove the dotted lines (surrounding links that
have been 'hit') like it's supposed to.

http://www.arvonfoundation.org/test/new_index5.htm is the page with the
style attached.

http://www.arvonfoundation.org/test/...main_style.css is the stylesheet.

Thanks for any help.

Chris Bradbury

AFAIK, this is not supported. Perhaps Safari does support it, but I
can't test it at the moment.

--
Anne van Kesteren
<http://www.annevankest eren.nl/>

[Chris Bradbury]

It's not that, the client wants them gone and the client is GOD...

Chris

"brucie" <sh**@bruciesus enetshit.info> wrote in message
news:bt******** ****@ID-117621.news.uni-berlin.de...

in post <news:40******@ 212.67.96.135>
Chris Bradbury said:

I've attached this style:
*:focus { outline: none }
to a page but it doesn't remove the dotted lines (surrounding links that
have been 'hit') like it's supposed to.

why do you want to make it more difficult for people to navigate your
site?

--
brucie

[Steve Pugh]

"Chris Bradbury" <cj********@dia l.pipex.com> wrote:

"brucie" <sh**@bruciesus enetshit.info> wrote in message
news:bt******* *****@ID-117621.news.uni-berlin.de...

in post <news:40******@ 212.67.96.135>
Chris Bradbury said:

> I've attached this style:
> *:focus { outline: none }
> to a page but it doesn't remove the dotted lines (surrounding links that
> have been 'hit') like it's supposed to.

why do you want to make it more difficult for people to navigate your
site?

It's not that, the client wants them gone and the client is GOD...

But is the client aware of the negative impact this will have on his
site? Has the client signed off on this, acknowledging that what he
wants is against your expert advice, and accepted all responsibility
for future costs that might arise as a result of following this
course?

Anyway, I'm fairly certain that :focus is supported by IE and I know
that outline: isn't so this solution definitely won't work for the
majority of user's out there.

Opera supports outline but uses highlighting not outline on the
currently selected link. Opera's support for :focus seems to be
patchy.

Mozilla supports :focus and it's own -moz-outline property, so
*:focus { -moz-outline: none } will work in Mozilla.

If the client is determined to screw any potential customers who
happen not to use a mouse to navigate web pages then you'll have to
use JavaScript methods to hide the focus rectangle.

Steve

--
"My theories appal you, my heresies outrage you,
I never answer letters and you don't like my tie." - The Doctor

Steve Pugh <st***@pugh.net > <http://steve.pugh.net/>

[Eric Bohlman]

Steve Pugh <st***@pugh.net > wrote in
news:lk******** *************** *********@4ax.c om:

If the client is determined to screw any potential customers who
happen not to use a mouse to navigate web pages then you'll have to
use JavaScript methods to hide the focus rectangle.

It's worth mentioning that there are many people who use a mouse for
general link/menu navigation but prefer to use the keyboard for navigating
between form elements (less hand-shifting when you're typing).

[Brian]

How am I supposed to post my replies in a newsgroup?:
http://allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post

brucie wrote

Chris Bradbury said:

I've attached this style:
*:focus { outline: none }
to a page but it doesn't remove the dotted lines (surrounding
links that have been 'hit') like it's supposed to.
why do you want to make it more difficult for people to navigate
your site?

Chris Bradbury wrote: It's not that,
Is *is* that. You are removing information that users are accustomed
to seeing, information that they use to figure out where they've been.
the client wants them gone and the client is GOD...

Tempting though it is to reply with smart-alec responses ("Does God
pay well? Could you ask him if he *does*, after all, play dice with
the universe? etc.), I'll stick to the topic.

The client has hired you to design a site. Presumably, this client
wants a site that visitors will find easy to use. You are the expert.
Isn't it your job to warn the client that their wish to remove
navigation hints (the focus outline) conflicts with the goal of
creating a functioning site?

--
Brian
follow the directions in my address to email me

[Neal]

On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:51:33 -0000, Chris Bradbury
<cj********@dia l.pipex.com> wrote:

It's not that, the client wants them gone and the client is GOD...

If I tell the architect I don't want any load-bearing walls on the first
floor, and no cross-beams and pillars because I don't like how they look,
is it the architect's duty to build me a house that will fall down, or to
politely tell me that I'm an idiot and to let him do the job I'm paying
him to?

Biggest problem with web authoring - too many forget that the structure is
more important than the presentation.

[Stephen Poley]

Top-posting corrected; please have a quick read of
http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/toppost.htm
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:51:33 -0000, "Chris Bradbury"
<cj********@dia l.pipex.com> wrote:

"brucie" <sh**@bruciesus enetshit.info> wrote in message
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in post <news:40******@ 212.67.96.135>
Chris Bradbury said:

> I've attached this style:
> *:focus { outline: none }
> to a page but it doesn't remove the dotted lines (surrounding links that
> have been 'hit') like it's supposed to.
why do you want to make it more difficult for people to navigate your
site?

It's not that, the client wants them gone and the client is GOD...

Gently point out to the client that visitors may decide not to believe
in him ...

The outline is there for a reason, and some people will find the site
very difficult (even impossible) to use without it. Try navigating the
site using the keyboard. Oh, and by the way - you do know that not all
browsers use a dotted outline, don't you?

--
Stephen Poley

http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/webmatters/