I do a large amount of web surfing using a Mac iBook with OS 9.2, and
Netscape 7.0, and seldom encounter any page display problems -- except
for MSNBC news pages such as, for example http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5350645/
which I commonly get to by following links from Slate.
These pages uniformly display as a very wide page with typical
advertising stuff in the leftmost column, a blank middle section, and
the news text displaced far to the right, initially off screen, and
often overlaid on top of graphics or ads.
I don't encounter similar problems with web pages from any of the many
other sites I routinely visit, which suggest that my browser may not be
at fault -- yet it seems as if MS+ NBC should know how to write valid
HTML. I'm just wondering, more out of curiousity than any real need,
what the problem might be here -- my browser or their HTML? 15  2983 
AES/newspost wrote: I do a large amount of web surfing using a Mac iBook with OS 9.2, and
Netscape 7.0, and seldom encounter any page display problems -- except
for MSNBC news pages such as, for example
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5350645/
This is off-topic for an authoring group.
These pages uniformly display as a very wide page with typical
advertising stuff in the leftmost column, a blank middle section, and
the news text displaced far to the right, initially off screen, and
often overlaid on top of graphics or ads.
Quite common for a site with pretensions to make money though random
advertising.
it seems as if MS+ NBC should know how to write valid
HTML.
Doubtful that they even know what "valid" means in the context of HTML,
but that is besides the point. "Valid" in HTML terms means only that the
document conforms to the formal sytex of a particular HTML
recommendation (e.g., 4.01/strict). It says nothing about the whether a
page follows the informal part of the spec, even less about good coding
practices such as flexible layout.
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Brian wrote: AES/newspost wrote:
I do a large amount of web surfing using a Mac iBook with OS 9.2, and
Netscape 7.0, and seldom encounter any page display problems -- except
for MSNBC news pages such as, for example
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5350645/
This is off-topic for an authoring group.
These pages uniformly display as a very wide page with typical
advertising stuff in the leftmost column, a blank middle section, and
the news text displaced far to the right, initially off screen, and
often overlaid on top of graphics or ads.
Quite common for a site with pretensions to make money though random
advertising.
it seems as if MS+ NBC should know how to write valid
HTML.
Doubtful that they even know what "valid" means in the context of HTML,
Microsoft has never knowed what valid html is. They even invented
their own html, called mshtml, and I belive it's still in use.
--
/Arne
Arne wrote: Microsoft has never knowed what valid html is. They even invented
their own html, called mshtml
Well, if they created their own dtd for mshtml, perhaps their documents
validated to it. Do you know if they published a dtd?
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Brian (remove ".invalid" to email me)
Brian wrote: Arne wrote:
Microsoft has never knowed what valid html is. They even invented
their own html, called mshtml
Well, if they created their own dtd for mshtml, perhaps their documents
validated to it. Do you know if they published a dtd?
Only if you call M$ Exposer a dtd. :)
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Uncle Pirate wrote: Brian wrote:
Arne wrote:
Microsoft ... even invented their own html, called mshtml
Well, if they created their own dtd for mshtml, perhaps their
documents validated to it. Do you know if they published a dtd?
Only if you call M$ Exposer a dtd. :)
Not sure what to make of that. You do know what a dtd is, right? I can't
quite make out the joke.
BTW, I like MS Ex*ploder* better. ;-)
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On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 20:42:38 GMT, Brian
<us*****@juliet remblay.com.inv alid> wrote: Uncle Pirate wrote:
Brian wrote:
Arne wrote:
Microsoft ... even invented their own html, called mshtml
Well, if they created their own dtd for mshtml, perhaps their
documents validated to it. Do you know if they published a dtd?
Only if you call M$ Exposer a dtd. :)
Not sure what to make of that. You do know what a dtd is, right? I can't
quite make out the joke.
BTW, I like MS Ex*ploder* better. ;-)
How about MS Expoorer?
Brian wrote: I like MS Ex*ploder* better. ;-)
Screwed that up. It should have been "Internet Exploder." The (lame) gag
works better that way, I think.
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Brian wrote: Arne wrote:
Microsoft has never knowed what valid html is. They even invented
their own html, called mshtml
Well, if they created their own dtd for mshtml, perhaps their documents
validated to it. Do you know if they published a dtd?
Don't recall I have seen any MS dtd, the suggestions posted by others
will do for me :-)
But isn't it mshtml that is created when you "save as html" in Word,
Excel, Powerpoint ..... and maybe even Frontpage? Those files renders
properly only in IE :-)
--
/Arne
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än den behöver vara, kommer de att göra dumma saker.
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Arne <ar********@tel ia.com> wrote: But isn't it mshtml that is created when you "save as html" in Word,
Excel, Powerpoint ..... and maybe even Frontpage?
Yep, pretty much.
Those files renders properly only in IE :-)
And sometimes not even then, depending on how MSIE is configured.
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