Hello. It's me again with another question that should generate a lot of
responses.
As mentioned before, I'm working on my first site (hopefully I'll be done
soon and can move on to other stuff...caus I'm tired of looking at the same
graphics). :-)
But, I've been running into all of these different HTML/CSS code debacles,
after which I've been advised to go back and "add 'this' default coding to
your stylesheet", or "IE sees your code like this...Mozilla/Firefox sees it
as this, so you have to do 'this' "....
Only to come to the conclusion that there are some general things that I need
to do or code that I need to always include that will make my life a lot
easier when I been using positioning code and other CSS elements to create my
webpage.
From your perspective, what would be these general inclusions...? What do I
"always" need to do so I won't have problems coding and my viewers won't have
any problems viewing my page? (No graphic design answers needed).
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In article <5u************ *@mid.individua l.net>,
Bergamot <be******@visi. comwrote:
Ben C wrote:
Unless a website specifically asks you not to do particular things then
it's perfectly OK to save an image and put it on your desktop.
Possession is 9/10 of the law? Hmmm...
He said putting it on your desktop, not grabbing it and selling
it or using it to become an overnight multibillionair e. I think a
bit more hmmming is needed.
Best not to archive or save a webpage for offline either, and it
is probably unsafe to open an image in a new tab, that is getting
awfully close to desktoping it[*]. And be careful of arranging
the normal web page in any way that loses the context of the
picture. And do not take any motivation or type of use into
account, even desktoping for personal observation and remembrance
could land you in trouble with the tut tut brigade.
On the web, possession is a 10/10th licence to do many things
that would be classified as fair use. This does not mean any use
whatsoever.
It's like a pie shop trying
to charge passers-by for smelling the pies.
The way I see it, you're allowed--encouraged even--to smell the pies
while you're in front of the pie shop. I think what you've done, though,
is walked away with a bite of it. Sounds like stealing to me.
To put a pic from a webpage on the desktop is stealing? Christ
almighty! Save us Dear Lord from these rigid moralists who never
think past their own noses.
Talking of noses, if one did smell a nice pie smell when passing
a pie shop and bottled it for private enjoyment and utility in a
strict diet regime when home, I would like to see a wig and gown
as the pie shop's legal team trying to get a quid off the hapless
non-customer.
There was a marvellous BBC TV production that featured an
unsuccessful outraged wigged gent putting up the moralist's case:
< http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/cinema/...rley-affair.sh
tml>
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[*] Reminds me of http://preview.tinyurl.com/35wkx7
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dorayme
Jeff North wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 14:04:14 -0600, in
comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.stylesheets Bergamot
<be******@visi. com>
<5u************ *@mid.individua l.netwrote:
>>| And this is getting pretty off-topic for this group, dontcha think?
Maybe/maybe not. Copyright should be a concern for all web developers.
Perhaps, but what does it have to do with stylesheets?
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Berg
On 21 déc 2007, 19:57, dorayme <doraymeRidT... @optusnet.com.a uwrote:
As for getting the image (permission is
different issue), you just right click and save it to disk.
The image at http://www.vilain.com/web-design.html
originally comes from
Alan Foreman from poisonedminds.c om
and was named web-breakdown.png
and it had an attribution of such and a copyright notice attached,
written on it.
In all fairness, this should ... err... must be said in broad
daylight.
Regards, Gérard
On 2008-01-14, dorayme <do************ @optusnet.com.a uwrote:
In article
<dc*********** *************** ********@v29g20 00hsf.googlegro ups.co
m>,
[...]
>The image at
http://www.vilain.com/web-design.html
originally comes from
Alan Foreman from poisonedminds.c om
and was named web-breakdown.png
and it had an attribution of such and a copyright notice attached,
written on it.
In all fairness, this should ... err... must be said in broad
daylight.
Regards, Gérard
Well, because you have mentioned this, I have just reread the
thread to see if I might have been too cavalier.
Perhaps I was - given the absurd world in which I live.
It simply did not occur to me that anyone would feel precious
about this particular pictorial joke. Any more than any verbal
joke. Jokes are bandied about and god help us all when one is
required by the moral brigade to always remember who first made a
joke or to respect it if someone gets all precious about it.
For something like that I might attribute it if I could remember whose
it was. Otherwise I might say "someone came up with this". Or nothing.
But I wouldn't actually pass it off as my own work.
A verbal joke on the other hand I would just re-use or adapt without
crediting it. Jokes just wouldn't be funny if you had to keep crediting
them to people. Professional comedians steal each others jokes all the
time. It's just the way it works.
The same goes largely for philosophical ideas as well. Some very
academic books try to credit everything all the time but it makes them
so turgid as to be practically unreadable. You also often find the
author is so hamstrung by angst about misattributing things that he's
unable to say much at all.
Ideas were always meant to be shared freely, that's how they develop.
Claiming credit or charging money for work you didn't do on the other
hand is obviously unfair, and that's what intellectual property laws are
there for.
There will always be grey areas where you need to get legal advice or
err on the side of caution (although saving a picture from the web and
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