Hello. It's me again with another question that should generate a lot of
responses.
As mentioned before, I'm working on my first site (hopefully I'll be done
soon and can move on to other stuff...caus I'm tired of looking at the same
graphics). :-)
But, I've been running into all of these different HTML/CSS code debacles,
after which I've been advised to go back and "add 'this' default coding to
your stylesheet", or "IE sees your code like this...Mozilla/Firefox sees it
as this, so you have to do 'this' "....
Only to come to the conclusion that there are some general things that I need
to do or code that I need to always include that will make my life a lot
easier when I been using positioning code and other CSS elements to create my
webpage.
From your perspective, what would be these general inclusions...? What do I
"always" need to do so I won't have problems coding and my viewers won't have
any problems viewing my page? (No graphic design answers needed).
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On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 08:54:43 +1100, in
comp.infosystem s. www.authoring.stylesheets dorayme
<do************ @optusnet.com.a u>
<do************ *************** *******@news-vip.optusnet.co m.auwrote:
>| In article <9k************ *************** *****@4ax.com>,
| Jeff North <jn******@yahoo .com.auwrote:
|
| <do************ @optusnet.com.a u>
[un-attributed snippage noted]
>| | [snip a lot of froth and bubble to try and justify IP theft]
| |
| | You snip it, of course, because you are not big enough to look at
| | the distinction being made.
| >
| So you'd have no problem if someone wrote:
| If you walk into a store and see a product you like just put it into
| your pocket then walk out of the store (you might be stopped by
| security personnel).
| >
|
| You snipped it again.
No I didn't. Stop being dishonest.
>| Who can judge now how little your
| conclusion follows from my words?
|
| You seem quite unable to see things in context. It is almost
| never ok to "just put" something in your pocket and "walk out of
| a store".
What do you mean "almost never ok". Is one form of shoplifting ok
while another form isn't?
>| It is very often quite ok to grab a pic from a website
| and stick it on your desktop. I do it on a daily basis with my
| own pictures and my own webpages as a lazy way to avoid going
| through my file system.
With your own IP you are free to do with it as you like. Other
people's IP is a completely different story.
>| I know it appears mean to say this but you have insulted me and
| when this happens, I relax all the rules.
|
| You, Jeff North, appear to have an arrested moral development.
Oh I see, I have "an arrested moral development" because I asked
permission to use an image, from a web page. Where as you would just
take it.
[snip irrelevant babblings]
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On 2008-01-12, Jeff North <jn******@yahoo .com.auwrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 08:54:43 +1100, in
comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.stylesheets dorayme
<do*********** *@optusnet.com. au>
<do*********** *************** ********@news-vip.optusnet.co m.auwrote:
[...]
>>| You seem quite unable to see things in context. It is almost
| never ok to "just put" something in your pocket and "walk out of
| a store".
What do you mean "almost never ok". Is one form of shoplifting ok
while another form isn't?
[...]
>>| It is very often quite ok to grab a pic from a website
| and stick it on your desktop. I do it on a daily basis with my
| own pictures and my own webpages as a lazy way to avoid going
| through my file system.
With your own IP you are free to do with it as you like. Other
people's IP is a completely different story.
You're being quite silly here. If people were that concerned about
people stealing their precious IP they wouldn't put their pictures on
the web in the first place any more than shops leave their merchandise
lying around unattended in the street.
Unless a website specifically asks you not to do particular things then
it's perfectly OK to save an image and put it on your desktop. You had
to download the thing to view it in your browser in the first place so
where are you going to draw the line here? It's like a pie shop trying
to charge passers-by for smelling the pies.
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 02:52:08 -0600, in
comp.infosystem s. www.authoring.stylesheets Ben C <sp******@spam. eggs>
<sl************ *********@bowse r.marioworldwro te:
>| On 2008-01-12, Jeff North <jn******@yahoo .com.auwrote:
| On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 08:54:43 +1100, in
| comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.stylesheets dorayme
| ><do*********** *@optusnet.com. au>
| ><do*********** *************** ********@news-vip.optusnet.co m.auwrote:
| [...]
| >>| You seem quite unable to see things in context. It is almost
| >>| never ok to "just put" something in your pocket and "walk out of
| >>| a store".
| >
| What do you mean "almost never ok". Is one form of shoplifting ok
| while another form isn't?
| [...]
| >>| It is very often quite ok to grab a pic from a website
| >>| and stick it on your desktop. I do it on a daily basis with my
| >>| own pictures and my own webpages as a lazy way to avoid going
| >>| through my file system.
| >
| With your own IP you are free to do with it as you like. Other
| people's IP is a completely different story.
|
| You're being quite silly here. If people were that concerned about
| people stealing their precious IP they wouldn't put their pictures on
| the web in the first place any more than shops leave their merchandise
| lying around unattended in the street.
|
| Unless a website specifically asks you not to do particular things then
| it's perfectly OK to save an image and put it on your desktop. You had
| to download the thing to view it in your browser in the first place so
| where are you going to draw the line here? It's like a pie shop trying
| to charge passers-by for smelling the pies.
Ignorance of the laws is no excuse. Try using the above argument in
front of a judge and see how far it gets you.
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In article <sl************ *********@bowse r.marioworld>,
Ben C <sp******@spam. eggswrote:
It's like a pie shop trying
to charge passers-by for smelling the pies.
<g>
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On 12 Jan, 10:55, Jeff North <jnort...@yahoo .com.auwrote:
Thanks. I finally found a site which left the copyright notice intact.http://blog.labnotes.org/2006/06/27/...rn-web-design/
So you think that stealing content is OK, provided that you label te
stolen content as "This was the copyright of someone else, until I
stole it" ?
Ben C wrote:
>
Unless a website specifically asks you not to do particular things then
it's perfectly OK to save an image and put it on your desktop.
Possession is 9/10 of the law? Hmmm...
It's like a pie shop trying
to charge passers-by for smelling the pies.
The way I see it, you're allowed--encouraged even--to smell the pies
while you're in front of the pie shop. I think what you've done, though,
is walked away with a bite of it. Sounds like stealing to me.
And this is getting pretty off-topic for this group, dontcha think?
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On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 10:43:27 -0800 (PST), in
comp.infosystem s. www.authoring.stylesheets Andy Dingley
<di*****@codesm iths.com>
<2c************ *************** *******@z17g200 0hsg.googlegrou ps.com>
wrote:
>| On 12 Jan, 10:55, Jeff North <jnort...@yahoo .com.auwrote:
|
| Thanks. I finally found a site which left the copyright notice intact.http://blog.labnotes.org/2006/06/27/...rn-web-design/
|
| So you think that stealing content is OK, provided that you label te
| stolen content as "This was the copyright of someone else, until I
| stole it" ?
No. I can now write to the author of the image and ask permission.
If I can't get a response from the author I will probably NOT use the
image as I would like it for a classroom presentation (not for my
desktop).
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On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 14:04:14 -0600, in
comp.infosystem s. www.authoring.stylesheets Bergamot
<be******@visi. com>
<5u************ *@mid.individua l.netwrote:
[snip]
>| And this is getting pretty off-topic for this group, dontcha think?
Maybe/maybe not. Copyright should be a concern for all web developers.
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