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CSS - IE/Firefox problem - element height

hello,

i am experiencing a little problem w/ regards to IE & Firefox
compatibility (works as expected in firefox, doesnt in IE).

i have a container-div element, which contains 1 image, and 2 nested
div elements. the problem is, in IE the height of the container-div is
extended -- it makes itself as high as *all* elements w/i in, rather
than the fixed-height i have assigned in px.

easier to show. here is a dummied-down demo of the problem:

http://www.semi-suave.com/temp/temp.html
http://www.semi-suave.com/temp/css/profile.css
and here is an image of what IE is doing to my height:

http://www.semi-suave.com/temp/the_problem.jpg
.....can anyone help me figure this out? i want the container-div (the
baby-blue box) to be only "130px", as its defined in mh "profile.cs s"
file. how do i stop it from auto-sizing itself to the height of all its
nested content!??
thanks!
matt

Jan 16 '06 #1
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ma**@mailinator .com wrote :
hello,
Hello Matt,

One thing I must immediately say: please do not multi-post. If you
believe several newsgroups must read your post, then at least
cross-post, clearly indicate so and then set the followup-to
accordingly. Multi-posting is really annoying.

See item 6 at
The seven don'ts of Usenet:
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/dont.html
i am experiencing a little problem w/ regards to IE & Firefox
compatibility (works as expected in firefox, doesnt in IE).

i have a container-div element, which contains 1 image, and 2 nested
div elements. the problem is, in IE the height of the container-div is
extended


This is most likely due to a well known incorrect implementation in MSIE
5 and MSIE 6 of overflow: visible; the default/initial value of overflow
is visible.

If you try
http://www.hixie.ch/tests/evil/mixed/vertgrowth.html
1. Fixed Longitudinal Dimensions
with MSIE 6 and Firefox 1.x, you immediately see the broken overflow model.

More MSIE 6 bug collection sites:
http://www.gtalbot.org/BrowserBugsSe...ollectionSites

Gérard
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Jan 17 '06 #2
thanks for the tip.

as for multi-posting... its been my experience over the years that most
posts go ignored. when i have database or programming questions i hit
the newsgroups (plural) related to topic in question. by posting to 4
or 5, i might get one reply. sorry if thats a problem for you...when my
ISP runs out of harddrive space ill stop. tho i will look into
cross-posting.
matt

Jan 17 '06 #3
ma**@mailinator .com wrote:
thanks for the tip.

as for multi-posting... its been my experience over the years that most
posts go ignored. when i have database or programming questions i hit
the newsgroups (plural) related to topic in question.
If you actually find several groups that apply, cross-post to them, and
set followups where you want to read the answers. Multi-posting means
you will have individual answers all over the place, and tick off
responders who find your other posts later. Hey, maybe that's why your
posts go ignored!
by posting to 4 or 5, i might get one reply.
Then you didn't pick the correct group.
sorry if thats a problem for you...when my ISP runs out of harddrive
space ill stop. tho i will look into cross-posting.


When you multi-post, you use up far more disk-space than if you
cross-post (which takes just one instance of the post).

If you use a real newsreader, you will find (cross) posting much easier.

This page will be of interest.
http://www.safalra.com/special/googlegroupsreply/

Your shift key seems to be broken as well.

--
-bts
-Warning: I brake for lawn deer
Jan 17 '06 #4
ma**@mailinator .com wrote :
thanks for the tip.

as for multi-posting... its been my experience over the years that most
posts go ignored.
They do not. Most of them are not ignored. Sometimes, an answer/reply
may take more time than a day. Sometimes, non-answered post are because
the post is not really answerable.

when i have database or programming questions i hit the newsgroups (plural) related to topic in question. by posting to 4
or 5, i might get one reply. sorry if thats a problem for you...
That's a problem for a very wide majority of people reading posts in
newsgroup. I gave you a page/url to read (7 dont's).

This page is really for you to read:
Why and how to crosspost
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/xpost.html

when my ISP runs out of harddrive space ill stop. tho i will look into
cross-posting.


Fine. :)

Gérard
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Jan 17 '06 #5
> Multi-posting means you will ... tick off responders who find your other posts later.

not a problem for me, thanks.
Then you didn't pick the correct group.
wrong. most of my work & posts are in the sql and c groups that apply
to me.
When you multi-post, you use up far more disk-space
....while i agree that thats a bad thing in theory, we are no longer
living in the fidonet era -- nobody is relaying packets via phone
lines, and server storage has increased 1000-fold. further, volumes
more data are wasted daily in the religion & gun groups that my little
posts here & there....so im not gonna sweat it.

that being said, ill try google's cross-posting next time i have a
question.
Your shift key seems to be broken as well.


again, not a problem for me, thanks.
matt

Jan 17 '06 #6
> That's a problem for a very wide majority of people reading posts in
newsgroup. I gave you a page/url to read (7 dont's).


yeah, yeah. heres what that little page comes down to: "It is
considered highly inappropriate"

there you have it. its the social equivelant of eating your salad w/
the appropiate fork.

guess what? it doesnt matter. back in the old days, we were concerned
w/ storage space. more, sysops used to download news packets themselves
via 1200baud modems, and long-distance was expensive. these days,
storage is bountiful and transmission is cheap.

sure, it may give readers more dupes if they read multiple groups. if
cross-posting instructs your readers to ignore cross posts, yes it will
make your life easier. but if it doesnt, or someone multi-posts once in
a while...well, whats the worst of it? you see some duplicate posts and
ignore them (ie, "don't like it, turn it off").

the thing you have to remember is... "It just doesnt matter". call me a
bill murray nililist, but this sort of
theoretical-philosophical-etiquette discussion is fruitless. the world
marches on, the sun keeps rising. in my decade of programming, ive come
to the same conclussion -- it largely, doesnt matter. all our code will
one day be deleted (often, sooner than you think), and one day nobody
will care what you or i say in this quaint little group. in a week
neither of us will care, in a year we wont even recall it. life goes
on...
matt

Jan 17 '06 #7
ma**@mailinator .com wrote:
not a problem for me, thanks.


It's all about you, isn't it?

--
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-Warning: I brake for lawn deer
Jan 17 '06 #8
ma**@mailinator .com wrote :
That's a problem for a very wide majority of people reading posts in
newsgroup. I gave you a page/url to read (7 dont's).
yeah, yeah. heres what that little page comes down to: "It is
considered highly inappropriate"

there you have it. its the social equivelant of eating your salad w/
the appropiate fork.

guess what? it doesnt matter. back in the old days, we were concerned
w/ storage space. more, sysops used to download news packets themselves
via 1200baud modems, and long-distance was expensive. these days,
storage is bountiful and transmission is cheap.

sure, it may give readers more dupes if they read multiple groups. if
cross-posting instructs your readers to ignore cross posts, yes it will
make your life easier. but if it doesnt, or someone multi-posts once in
a while...well, whats the worst of it? you see some duplicate posts and
ignore them (ie, "don't like it, turn it off").


Cross-post is ok if you indicate clearly that you are doing so and that
replies have a followup-to.
the thing you have to remember is... "It just doesnt matter". call me a
bill murray nililist, but this sort of
theoretical-philosophical-etiquette discussion is fruitless. the world
marches on, the sun keeps rising. in my decade of programming, ive come
to the same conclussion -- it largely, doesnt matter. all our code will
one day be deleted (often, sooner than you think), and one day nobody
will care what you or i say in this quaint little group. in a week
neither of us will care, in a year we wont even recall it. life goes
on...

Matt, I replied to your post to the best of my ability. I tried to be as
informative as I can possibly be. I used a friendly tone, a
comprehensive tone, not an admonishing tone, inviting you to not
alienate yourself from this newsgroup and from alt.html either.

If you want help, be helpful.

If you want assistance when posting a message, then use the most
assisting post and assisting manners you can when posting.

Gérard
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Jan 17 '06 #9
ma**@mailinator .com wrote :
Multi-posting means you will ... tick off responders who find your other posts later.


not a problem for me, thanks.


Newsgroups are not like a micro-wave oven that outputs quickly and
conveniently what you're hungry for. No one is working for you, just for
you. Every answer you got came from people who volunteered, gave you a
bit of their expertise and time.

Newsgroups are not an extension of a library. People in newsgroups are
not objects dedicated for your services. There are real live persons
behind the characters you read on your monitor screen.

Why do you want to go against a de facto standard (which promotes best
possible communication for communities and participants in newsgroups)
in newsgroups and alienate your posts is beyond my understanding.

Gérard
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Jan 17 '06 #10

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