Dfenestr8 <ch************ **@yahoo.com.au > wrote:
Hi. I'm designing a site, and I'm trying find a way of browsing it
without using frames, so I can test the <noframes> </noframes>
tags.
Here's a copy of an answer that I recently sent to a similar question
in alt.html:
In addition to the possibility of installing a noframes-capable browser
such as Opera, there's a simple way: Create a file that contains the
content of your <noframes> element and access it. The simplest way is
to create a copy of your current frameset page and delete the
<frameset> and <frame> tags.
This won't tell how well the page works when the page is accessed using
a browser that uses frames but presents them in a non-visual way, as
e.g. speech-based browsers have to. Using the Lynx browser (or a Lynx
simulator) is a simple tool for such testing, which is actually more
important than noframes testing.
Quick test: read the names of your frames and ask someone to decide, on
the basis of the names alone, which frame he would choose to find
something on your page. (Use a novice, preferably. An experienced user
might guess that "left" is navigation menu and "right" is content.)
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There was also the following reply, which I haven't tested:
"for Mozilla (Firefox and probably Netscape as well) in address bar
enter 'about
:config' search for 'frames' then change the setting
'browser.frames .enabled' to 'false'"
But at least on Mozilla Firefox on Windows, changing that setting
does not seem to change anything until I close Firefox. Then, when
I try to restart it, I get "Error launching browser window:no XBL
binding". Could be a coincidence, of course. But I still think that
trying to make a noframes-incapable browser into a noframes-capable
browser by directly changing its internal variables is a risky
business: if they didn't make the setting part of the normal end user
interface, they probably didn't test it well.
(Followups trimmed.)
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