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Serge Rielau wrote: I do not see Linux desktops (yet) outside of the geeky area ...
Unfortunately that is true, it's very pleasant to work with linux
desktops, I use it al the time at work and even in private.
But no marketing means (nearly) no customers.
... and I don't
see how Linux has knocked teh commercial OS vendors over technologically .
There a number of implementations in the linux OS which are yet to be
announced in future versions of other OS's. Furthermore some
implementations are better handled in The OSS than in the commercial
counterparts. Again I use the example of Samba. Samba has all the
abilities of the microsoft SMB implementation, and then some. Next to
that Samba outperformed win 2003 SMB with a factor 3 in speed. (this is
just one example)
Note however how Microsoft is struggling to incite customers to upgrade.
There is little to be gained technologically by going from one version
of Windows to the next for the vast majority of desktop users.
Yes.. this is again obvious in the upcoming Windows Longhorn/Vista.
Compared to the first announcement, a numerous of new revolutionary
parts have been dropped (one of them was bash-like scripting). If you
subtract that from the initial presentation, you'll get a polished XP.
To most Windows 2000 was good enough. The moment Linux desktops
environment catch up with W2k and that is widely known I'd expect MS
#installations to tank unless they go free themselves because MS has no
where to go with the desktop.
This will most likely never happen, at least not through linux.
Almost no one I know has even heard of linux (or they have and don't
even know how to pronounce it, or even call it lunix (c64 unix))
Without marketing, linux will stay what it is; a geeky os.
If you look at DBMS again vendors are trying to avoid the trap by moving
upstream into "Informatio n Integration" and "Content management" (see
IBM's shopping spree) and Apps (Peoplesoft, Retek). Not moving upstream
to provide value means getting clobbered by the mySQL et al.
It would be ludicrous to use a vast system like DB2 or Oracle for use of
a CMS which displays some newsitems. Talk about a waste of potential.
The fact is that the OS db's are shifting towards OLTP (this is the hard
one) and Data warehousing. (another fact is that they are not there yet)
Cheers
Serge
-R-
"Noons" <wi*******@yaho o.com.au> wrote in message
news:42******** *************** @per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au ... Madison Pruet apparently said,on my timestamp of 4/08/2005 9:21 AM:
Fair enough --- on the IDS informix server, to do this with say 5
instances by issueing the two commands
cdr define template noons --database=noons --master=node1 --all
cdr realize template noons --syncdatasource= node1 node2 node3 node4
node5
This would set up an update anywhere of everything in the noons database
using the five servers.
Thank you. Like I suspected, you have to relicate the entire database.
It is much more efficient to do that in Oracle via dataguard. Like
I said nearly 24 hours ago. Of course, you can also template
the entire database and replicate the lot. Anything is possible,
provided you have sufficient resources.
No Noons. You asked how I would do it, not how it had to be done.
Since the IBM Informix Enterprise Replication uses less than 10% of the
total resources, it is simply easier to replicate the whole DB. And since
disks are so cheap now, I would have difficulty not justifying having a
multi-node grid like arrangement so that the applications could be active on
any of the replicated nodes.
--
Nuno Souto
in sunny Sydney, Australia
wi*******@yahoo .com.au.nospam
"Madison Pruet" <mp****@comcast .net> wrote Since the IBM Informix Enterprise Replication uses less than 10% of the
total resources, it is simply easier to replicate the whole DB. And since
disks are so cheap now, I would have difficulty not justifying having a
multi-node grid like arrangement so that the applications could be active on
any of the replicated nodes.
so what you are saying is that with ER on a multi node replication (all
updating
each other) one can develop a grid aware application which can not only
provide high availability, but also load balancing.
A friend of mine in USA is working on a project like this only. He says
it is incredible.
Noons wrote:
Back in 91 I drove out of Sweden one early morning. Ended up in
France in the afternoon of the same day. After zooming past
Denmark, Germany, Holland and Belgium. So I decided it was
probably worth going back and having a better look at the ones
I missed when I blinked. Spent the night in Holland. Nice
pub, near one of the freeways. Owner asked me where I had been
that day. When I explained he laughed and called me mad. Which
was probably quite true. Heck, I was in holidays! ;)
(of course over here we often drive 600Ks each way for the
weekend, but that's us geographically challenged people...)
<g,d&r>
You are a cheat! Denmark as well as France have common borders
with Germany. And there's no speed limit in Germany.
But yes - it's feasible, no problem. BTW you forgot Luxembourg.
Did 300Ks daily for almost 5 years.
--
Regards,
Frank van Bortel
Frank van Bortel wrote: You are a cheat! Denmark as well as France have common borders
with Germany. And there's no speed limit in Germany.
Hey, don't blame me: I didn't make the borders! :)
Yeah, German autobahns ROCK! Although I must admit Northern
Italy was the most unsettling: doing 170 from Venice to
Florence when some guy in a "whatever-zoometti" just went
woosh past us: felt like opening the door and getting out!
Tried to catch him but got the foot off the pedal at 240.
It was a holiday after all and I wanted to enjoy it till
the end... (darn 2L Sierras could MOVE!)
But yes - it's feasible, no problem. BTW you forgot Luxembourg.
Missed it. I think I caught a glimpse on the rear-mirror.
;)
Did 300Ks daily for almost 5 years.
You're MAD! :)
Wouldn't try that even here. Well maybe in the NT or SA
where there are no speed limits on outback roads...
Madison Pruet wrote: Since the IBM Informix Enterprise Replication uses less than 10% of the
total resources, it is simply easier to replicate the whole DB. And since
disks are so cheap now, I would have difficulty not justifying having a
multi-node grid like arrangement so that the applications could be active on
any of the replicated nodes.
Pretty soon you're gonna try to convince me replication
on IIER is faster than light...
IBM, the company that invented SQL and relational database, is tied
(according to Gartner) for relational database revenue with Oracle. The
article that spawned this thread is a cheapshot by a nonentity seeking
self-promotion. I can't say much about Mac, but the characteristics
identified by Charles Darwin for the survival of a species are inherent
in DB2.
the article may have some truth in it; may be it's a warning
that IBM is suffering from the Philips syndrome; producing
great technology but may loose the market.
If that is the case then it is a very good idea to take these signals
serious and start doing something about it.
Superboer.
bka schreef: IBM, the company that invented SQL and relational database, is tied
(according to Gartner) for relational database revenue with Oracle. The
article that spawned this thread is a cheapshot by a nonentity seeking
self-promotion. I can't say much about Mac, but the characteristics
identified by Charles Darwin for the survival of a species are inherent
in DB2.
I duuno ... don't see any signs that IBM is losing significant market
share. Look at other examples in various industries ... for many
products, there are usually at least 2 or 3 or 4 main survivors who end
up there for the long-term. You don't even have to be the market share
leader ... just have a significant presence. Hertz/Avis,
American/United/Delta, Krups/Braun/Cuisinart, pick your example.
And, in fact, IBM's product and portfolio diversification as well as
research funding should be seen as advantages to long-term survival over
companies with less diverse product lines and solution lines.
Larry
Superboer wrote: the article may have some truth in it; may be it's a warning
that IBM is suffering from the Philips syndrome; producing
great technology but may loose the market.
If that is the case then it is a very good idea to take these signals
serious and start doing something about it.
Superboer.
bka schreef:
IBM, the company that invented SQL and relational database, is tied
(according to Gartner) for relational database revenue with Oracle. The
article that spawned this thread is a cheapshot by a nonentity seeking
self-promotion. I can't say much about Mac, but the characteristics
identified by Charles Darwin for the survival of a species are inherent
in DB2.
"Noons" <wi*******@yaho o.com.au> wrote in message
news:42******** *************** @per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au ...
| DA Morgan apparently said,on my timestamp of 31/07/2005 3:32 AM:
|
| replying to both:
[snip]
| Maybe we'll see some management finally biting the bullet and
| cleansweeping the Java crap off the place? Sure, it'll have to
| be washed with liberal applications of marketing bullshit.
| That shouldn't be a problem.
:-) http://www.dack.com/web/bullshit.html
Cheers,
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