375  18206 
3. While less than 20% of IBM's revenue, software like DB2 contributes
close to 40% of IBM's profit. Margins on software are higher than they
are on services and hardware. The reasons should be obvious: selling
marginal units of hardware or services require more expensive inputs
(manufacturing and humans). Selling marginal units of DB2 requires more
CD's, a cheap input.
Businesses are in business to make profit, so DB2 on Linux, UNIX and
Windows is strategic to IBM.
4. DB2 revenue on UNIX is not "relatively small" - it's comparable to
DB2 revenue on mainframes.
Madison Pruet apparently said,on my timestamp of 4/08/2005 3:43 AM: Thanks Mark. That was the reason that I asked the question in the first
place.
Unfortunatly, it now appears that Noons is not as knowledgable about the
Oracle Database as he led us to believe since he totally disagreed with your
responses and said that no database version supported any of this.
Thanks for the correct response.
Oh, GAGF you piss poor idiot. Oldest effing trick in the book.
And stop top posting.
"Mark Malakanov" <ma*****@rogers .com> wrote in message
news:k8******** ************@ro gers.com...
Madison, I think your understanding of Oracle materialized views does
not include all of its features available.
Madison Pruet wrote:
No Noons, I responded with why I didn't consider snapshop replication
of
any kind to be replication. A copy maybe, but not replication. I never
tried to compare anything.
And I quote from my prior postiong...
"Does Oracle snapshot replication
1) replicate all of the trigger activity performed on the original table
Yes. It does. You can create MV Log on a source table. It will write
down all of table data modifications into MV log table. Further these
modificatio ns can be propagated to a target MV in "fast refresh" mode.
Including modifications to OTHER tables generated by triggers
on the original? THAT is what he asked. Please explain where
in the MVLOG is that kept?
2) distinguish between updates on a row and inserts/deletes on the same
row?
(If not, then cascade deletes are not properly performed)
Yes, see above. All is registered in a time based sequence.
Please explain which part of the mvlog records changes
to OTHER tables?
3) properly handle cascading updates
Yes. You can combine several MVs into a MV Group. The refreshes will be
done with transactional consistency.
This is why I generally don't consider snapshot copies as being
replication.
They generally only replicate the data, and not the engine logic
associated
with the base table."
No, it is not so simplistic.
You can refer to Oracle9i Advanced Replication Release 2
That COULD be a good idea. IF he could read...
Madison Pruet apparently said,on my timestamp of 4/08/2005 1:00 AM:
If you have SUCH A BIG problem with cross-posting, HOW COME
it's only now you're piping about it? Hmmmm?
Because you stated "that is not possible with ANY replication in any
database version." in comp.databases. informix, which is simply not true.
That is absolute BULLSHIT. I asked: why did you not complain
about x-posting before! Nothing to do with replication.
Not even remotely related. If you want to take the
"holier than thou" approach, at least be minimally consistent.
And shove it.
In fact, from what I understand, Oracle streams supports this functionality
as well.
Really? Exactly WHICH functionality is "this" again?
And you READ manuals now?
Well - so far I haven't had to resorted to insults, obscene statements,
zingers, or any other form of putdown. I've simply been stating facts.
I couldn't care less what you "resort" to.
Some of your comments, however, well - they really belong in the
locker-room.
Good. Go see if I'm there.
--
Nuno Souto
in sunny Sydney, Australia wi*******@yahoo .com.au.nospam
"Noons" <wi*******@yaho o.com.au> wrote in message
news:42******** *************** @per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au ... Madison Pruet apparently said,on my timestamp of 4/08/2005 3:43 AM: Thanks Mark. That was the reason that I asked the question in the first
place.
Unfortunatly, it now appears that Noons is not as knowledgable about the
Oracle Database as he led us to believe since he totally disagreed with
your responses and said that no database version supported any of this.
Thanks for the correct response.
Oh, GAGF you piss poor idiot. Oldest effing trick in the book.
And stop top posting.
Why? Who appointed you the king of news groups? I posted on top because it
was a general comment and note of thanks to Mark for being factual.
No, it is not so simplistic.
You can refer to Oracle9i Advanced Replication Release 2
That COULD be a good idea. IF he could read...
Noons - based on the misinformation that you've been giving out about Oracle
DB, I'd suggest you reading it a bit as well. I admit that I don't know
Oracle that well. That's why I asked the question in the first place. On
the other hand, it appears that you have been giving out misinformation
while pretending to be the Oracle expert. Ha********@mail .ing.nl wrote:
Actually, the test mentioned above wasn't in Nice.
This was a test of running a large corporate data warehouse with
Oracle on MVS on a RX4 mainframe in the IBM lab in Montpellier.
I happened to be the dba in that test; although Oracle ran
perfectly well on this platform, eventually the decision was
made to run the application on a Sun/Solaris machine
Hans Wijte
Thanks for clarifying that, Montpellier it was.
Well, Montpellier <-> Nice is 275 km.
Both on the Cote d'Azur. Close enough for me.
--
Regards,
Frank van Bortel
"Noons" <wi*******@yaho o.com.au> wrote in message
news:42******** *************** @per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au ... Madison Pruet apparently said,on my timestamp of 4/08/2005 1:00 AM:
If you have SUCH A BIG problem with cross-posting, HOW COME
it's only now you're piping about it? Hmmmm?
Because you stated "that is not possible with ANY replication in any
database version." in comp.databases. informix, which is simply not
true.
That is absolute BULLSHIT. I asked: why did you not complain
about x-posting before! Nothing to do with replication.
Not even remotely related. If you want to take the
"holier than thou" approach, at least be minimally consistent.
And shove it.
In fact, from what I understand, Oracle streams supports this
functionality as well.
Really? Exactly WHICH functionality is "this" again?
And you READ manuals now?
Well - so far I haven't had to resorted to insults, obscene statements,
zingers, or any other form of putdown. I've simply been stating facts.
I couldn't care less what you "resort" to.
Some of your comments, however, well - they really belong in the
locker-room.
Good. Go see if I'm there.
--
Nuno Souto
in sunny Sydney, Australia
wi*******@yahoo .com.au.nospam
Peter Nolan apparently said,on my timestamp of 4/08/2005 1:59 AM:
I am sure IBM Global Services are just as happy to look after an Oracle
database as a DB2 database as an abacus if they can earn their hourly
fee for doing so... (LOL)!!
and place heaps of their hordes on the job.
27 dbas in a single project, I counted last time.
As if ANY of them was a dba...
--
Cheers
Nuno Souto
in sunny Sydney, Australia wi*******@yahoo .com.au.nospam
Madison Pruet apparently said,on my timestamp of 4/08/2005 5:11 AM:
Noons - based on the misinformation that you've been giving out about Oracle
DB, I'd suggest you reading it a bit as well. I admit that I don't know
Oracle that well. That's why I asked the question in the first place. On
the other hand, it appears that you have been giving out misinformation
while pretending to be the Oracle expert.
I never "pretended to be an Oracle expert", dickhead.
Once again, you're letting your imagination run rampant.
Try sticking to facts. WHICH part was the misinformation?
--
Cheers
Nuno Souto
in sunny Sydney, Australia wi*******@yahoo .com.au.nospam
"Noons" <wi*******@yaho o.com.au> wrote in message
news:42******** *************** @per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au ... Madison Pruet apparently said,on my timestamp of 4/08/2005 1:00 AM:
If you have SUCH A BIG problem with cross-posting, HOW COME
it's only now you're piping about it? Hmmmm?
Because you stated "that is not possible with ANY replication in any
database version." in comp.databases. informix, which is simply not
true.
That is absolute BULLSHIT. I asked: why did you not complain
about x-posting before! Nothing to do with replication.
Not even remotely related.
Noons - you posted misinformation in comp.database.i bm_db2,
comp.databases. informix, and comp.databases. oracle.server. You stated in
those news groups ... well we all know know what you stated. Since you
passed misinformation in those news groups, then it only stands to reason
that the correction also belongs in those news groups.
By the way - since it appears that you have rather limited knowledge about
replication solutions, Sybase replication works by replication the
procedural calls made on the source. Therefor, Sybase replication is
totally in line with what I was talking about.
Madison Pruet apparently said,on my timestamp of 4/08/2005 5:15 AM: "Noons" <wi*******@yaho o.com.au> wrote in message
news:42******** *************** @per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au ...
Madison Pruet apparently said,on my timestamp of 4/08/2005 1:00 AM:
If you have SUCH A BIG problem with cross-posting, HOW COME
it's only now you're piping about it? Hmmmm?
Because you stated "that is not possible with ANY replication in any
database version." in comp.databases. informix, which is simply not
true.
That is absolute BULLSHIT. I asked: why did you not complain
about x-posting before! Nothing to do with replication.
Not even remotely related. If you want to take the
"holier than thou" approach, at least be minimally consistent.
And shove it.
In fact, from what I understand, Oracle streams supports this
functionality
as well.
Really? Exactly WHICH functionality is "this" again?
And you READ manuals now?
Well - so far I haven't had to resorted to insults, obscene statements,
zingers, or any other form of putdown. I've simply been stating facts.
I couldn't care less what you "resort" to.
Some of your comments, however, well - they really belong in the
locker-room.
Good. Go see if I'm there.
Can you post something of substance instead of cut and pasting
the original? Or is "cut and paste" your specialty?
--
Cheers
Nuno Souto
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