New to C++ need help

[Richie]

I am new to C++. I heard old stories that C++ is not standardized and
microsoft, borland, watcom, and ...etc, have their own flavor of C++.
Is this still true? If it is true, which kind of C++ is widely used and
widely accepted by the C++ community? What are the best opensource and
proprietary IDEs to do C++ programming? What are the best books and/or
tutorials to learn C++ programming? Another old story I heard was STLs
were very buggy and very problematic especially with memory leaks. Is
this true?

[TB]

Richie sade:

I am new to C++. I heard old stories that C++ is not standardized and
microsoft, borland, watcom, and ...etc, have their own flavor of C++.
Is this still true? If it is true, which kind of C++ is widely used and
widely accepted by the C++ community? What are the best opensource and
proprietary IDEs to do C++ programming? What are the best books and/or
tutorials to learn C++ programming? Another old story I heard was STLs
were very buggy and very problematic especially with memory leaks. Is
this true?

Information about the C++ Standard:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO/IEC_14882
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%2B%2B

Information about the C++ Standard Library:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_Plus_...andard_library

TB

[Kai-Uwe Bux]

Richie wrote:

I am new to C++. I heard old stories that C++ is not standardized and
microsoft, borland, watcom, and ...etc, have their own flavor of C++.
Is this still true?
No. There is a C++ standard. You can get an electronic copy of it for about
$18 from the ANSI we store.
If it is true, which kind of C++ is widely used and
widely accepted by the C++ community?
Standard C++ is widely accepted, and it is the only dialect topical in this
news group.
What are the best opensource and proprietary IDEs to do C++ programming?
I just use g++ / my favorite editor / gdb / ddd.

What are the best books and/or tutorials to learn C++ programming?
I don't know. But the FAQ for this news group would be a good point to
start.

Another old story I heard was STLs were very buggy and very problematic

especially with memory leaks. Is this true?

The first reference implementation that I am aware of was done by HP and
then was further maintained by SGI. I am not aware of any leaks in there.
However, it uses memory pooling allocators that can fool some memory
detection tools into (falsely) thinking that there is a leak. More modern
implementations may use similar tricks.

Generally, the standard library implementations shipping today are *very*
reliable as they are heavily used and tested.
Best

Kai-Uwe Bux

[Mike Wahler]

"Richie" <co**********@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I am new to C++. I heard old stories that C++ is not standardized
Those stories would only be true if they were told prior
to 1998.
and
microsoft, borland, watcom, and ...etc, have their own flavor of C++.
This is still true. But their conformance is much better
with recent versions.
Is this still true? If it is true, which kind of C++ is widely used and
widely accepted by the C++ community?
ISO standard C++ as defined by ISO/IEC 14882
What are the best opensource and
proprietary IDEs to do C++ programming?
The concept 'best' requires context to be meaningful.
What are the best books and/or
tutorials to learn C++ programming?
See the book reviews at www.accu.org
Again, 'best' depends upon many factors (such as
your existing skill/knowledge).
Another old story I heard was STLs
were very buggy and very problematic especially with memory leaks. Is
this true?

Some software is 'very buggy', some not. This is true
of 'STL' or any other type of software.

-Mike

[rossum]

On 14 Jan 2006 13:24:20 -0800, "Richie" <co**********@gmail.com>
wrote:

I am new to C++. I heard old stories that C++ is not standardized It is now, since 1998. THose stories must have been very old.
and microsoft, borland, watcom, and ...etc, have their own flavor of C++.
Is this still true? No, their current compilers conform to the standard.
What are the best opensource and proprietary IDEs to do C++ programming? A matter of opinion. For Windows there is Dev-C++ or the free (but
not open source) MS Visual C++ Express 2005.
What are the best books and/or tutorials to learn C++ programming? Have a look at www.accu.org for lots of book reviews. If you are an
experienced programmer in another language the usual suggestion is
Accelerated C++ by Koenig and Moos.
Another old story I heard was STLs were very buggy and very problematic
especially with memory leaks. Is this true?

No.

rossum

--

The ultimate truth is that there is no ultimate truth

[Richie]

Thank you for the information. You have a very help. Those stories
occurred in 1995.

[Richie]

Thank you for the information. You have a very help. Those stories
occurred in 1995.

[Chris Theis]

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"Richie" <co**********@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I am new to C++. I heard old stories that C++ is not standardized

Those stories would only be true if they were told prior
to 1998.

and
microsoft, borland, watcom, and ...etc, have their own flavor of C++.

This is still true. But their conformance is much better
with recent versions.

Is this still true? If it is true, which kind of C++ is widely used and
widely accepted by the C++ community?

ISO standard C++ as defined by ISO/IEC 14882

What are the best opensource and
proprietary IDEs to do C++ programming?

The concept 'best' requires context to be meaningful.

What are the best books and/or
tutorials to learn C++ programming?

See the book reviews at www.accu.org
Again, 'best' depends upon many factors (such as
your existing skill/knowledge).

Another old story I heard was STLs
were very buggy and very problematic especially with memory leaks. Is
this true?

Some software is 'very buggy', some not. This is true
of 'STL' or any other type of software.

I might add here that this stuff regarding memory leaks with the standard
lib might actually not be a bug but a sometimes wanted feature. In principle
the implementation is free to apply memory pooling and furthermore, not
destroy memory which is known to be around until the program gracefully
exits and thus, the memory is/or should be reclaimed by the OS. So this
"leak" might actually be wanted because of performance requirements. Whether
this is a bug or not is arguable but it sometimes pays off and can normally
be turned off.

Cheers
Chris

[Richie]

thank you all for your help