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hello,

would any kind soul explain what is top posting, since i dont have www
access. to reply to a post, i open it in the outlook express and click
reply group and that's all. what the top posting all about..?

Kind Regards,
Ravishankar

Aug 13 '07
48 1769
Chris Saunders said:
Top-posting is certainly not inherently selfish
It is, for reasons explained already. A point by point response makes it
easier to see which part of the reply relates to which part of the
quoted material, and thus it takes less time to read such a response
than a top-posted reply.

One should write with consideration for one's readership, or one will
find that one's articles are read by fewer and fewer people. You
yourself are discovering this, since you've already been plonked by at
least one regular contributor to this group (which means he won't see
any of your future questions about C, and thus will not respond to
them). Your problem, not his.
- some consider it
preferable. If you view a large number of newsgroups you will find
plenty wher it is the most common form.
And we should eat horse manure, too - after all, ten trillion flies
can't be wrong.

<snip>

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Email: -www. +rjh@
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Aug 14 '07 #41
- Thanks Jens. Quite simple ha ! In other news groups, they didnt bother
about the way I posted..!

The other thing you should do is to remove "signatures " - thats
anything after the "-- " above. Your newsreader should do that
automatically, if not - you need to change newsreaders!
--
Mark McIntyre
To top-post or to not, that is the question.
Its similar to many other things "good" , but with inidividual preferences.
A new comer will pick up these one by one.
Aug 14 '07 #42
Chris Saunders wrote:
>
Top-posting is certainly not inherently selfish - some consider it
preferable. If you view a large number of newsgroups you will find
plenty wher it is the most common form.
PLONK.

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Available for consulting/temporary embedded and systems.
<http://cbfalconer.home .att.net>
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Aug 14 '07 #43
Default User wrote:
gw****@aol.com wrote:
>Even more depressing is reading posts by people who say "don't
top post" but don't say what top posting is. The next response
is almost always the same person again, asking "what is top
posting?" - in a top posted reply.

I agree with that. Often the offender is confused and thinks it
refers to where the post appears in the thread.
Well, when I complain I include some links to descriptive URLs.

--
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Available for consulting/temporary embedded and systems.
<http://cbfalconer.home .att.net>

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Aug 14 '07 #44
Ivar Rosquist wrote:
>
I agree with your views on this. What I don't like are the self-
appointed network policemen, whose kneejerk reaction is just to
condemn top posting, without qualifications, as though top-posting
were something intrinsically evil.
Which it is. It disturbs the continuity of the reply, it
discourages proper snipping, etc. etc.

--
Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net)
Available for consulting/temporary embedded and systems.
<http://cbfalconer.home .att.net>

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Aug 14 '07 #45
Ravishankar S wrote:
>
would any kind soul explain what is top posting, since i dont have
www access. to reply to a post, i open it in the outlook express and
click reply group and that's all. what the top posting all about..?
Just read the following URLs. Or you could just read the message
below, which should give you the idea.

Please do not top-post. Your answer belongs after (or intermixed
with) the quoted material to which you reply, after snipping all
irrelevant material. See the following links:

--
<http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html>
<http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html >
<http://www.netmeister. org/news/learn2quote.htm l>
<http://cfaj.freeshell. org/google/ (taming google)
<http://members.fortune city.com/nnqweb/ (newusers)

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Aug 14 '07 #46
CBFalconer wrote:
Default User wrote:
gw****@aol.com wrote:
Even more depressing is reading posts by people who say "don't
top post" but don't say what top posting is. The next response
is almost always the same person again, asking "what is top
posting?" - in a top posted reply.
I agree with that. Often the offender is confused and thinks it
refers to where the post appears in the thread.

Well, when I complain I include some links to descriptive URLs.

You're the gold standard.

Brian
Aug 14 '07 #47
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 02:53:48 -0400, "Chris Saunders"
<ev**@mountainc able.netwrote:
>I was not interpreting the message I included in my post as meaning
"bottom-post". I didn't intersperse my reply as I considered it unneccesary
since it was short and if you have been following this thread you may have
already known its contents.
I'm reading (not memorizing) this thread and a hundred or so others,
today. I'm going to lighten that load just a bit by not reading
anything more from you. Learn how to post. Learn what a signature
block is, how it's configured, and where to put it. You might find it
helpful to get a better newsreader, or a copy of OE-Quotefix. Bye,
now.
>
Regards
Chris Saunders

"Al Balmer" <al******@att.n etwrote in message
news:mk******* *************** **********@4ax. com...
>On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 15:17:44 -0400, "Chris Saunders"
<ev**@mountain cable.netwrote:

I think, for most people here, "Don't top-post" does *not* mean
"bottom-post." If you had interspersed your reply, as most recommend,
you might have discovered that Richard was saying that, in his second
paragraph. In addition, neither you nor I would be confused about your
reference to "the part about replying below." I've left Richard's
message so that you can easily contemplate where your comments should
have gone.
--
Al Balmer
Sun City, AZ
--
Al Balmer
Sun City, AZ
Aug 14 '07 #48
Flash Gordon wrote:
>
Richard Heathfield wrote, On 13/08/07 17:51:
Kenneth Brody said:

<snip>
(Unfortunately, some people at work whom I can't simply ignore are
among those who "just don't get it". And their e-mail client doesn't
help matters by defaulting to "improperly quote everything and place
the cursor at the top".)
I used to think this was incorrect behaviour too, but I've heard an
intriguing counter-argument, to the effect that the entire article is
quoted because the client doesn't know what you want to quote - which
is surely fair enough - and then the cursor is placed at the top so
that you can proceed through the text from top to bottom, deciding at
each step what to snip and what to quote and reply to. That's certainly
a workable way to write a reply,
Agreed, if the program were to properly quote the included text,
preface it with something like "so-and-so wrote", and placed the
cursor at the top. However, what I typically see is several
blank lines at the top, a dividing line, and unmarked quoted
text, with the cursor at the top of the blank lines.
Agreed. However, at least one program that does this puts a couple of
blank lines at the top suggesting to people that is where the text
should go and, if you have a sig set up puts *that* just above the
quoted material just to make sure you get it wrong.
Yeah, what he said.

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