I'd like to say I have a basic control of the C language. Is there any
reccomended reading upon completion of K&R?
Are there any projects someone new to C could study/watch over/ and
eventually contribute to in order to get a grip on the development
process and/or expand their knowledge?
Thank you.
May 31 '07
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Michael said:
Is there any reccomended reading upon completion of K&R?
I would also add Writing Solid Code by Steve Maguire.
I wouldn't.
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Richard Heathfield wrote:
Tor Rustad said:
.... snip ...
>
>That completes the recommendations from Richard H., which lack
any references to platform-dependent coding, if OP is using
UNIX/Linux, a book on POSIX (e.g. Stevens APUE
http://www.kohala.com/start/) is much more useful, than many of
the above suggestions.
Well, this is a platform-independent group. If I were pushed for
platform-specific recommendations , I would start off by saying
APUE to the POSIX people, PW (Petzold, 5th edition ONLY) to the
Win32 people, and UNP to both groups (yes, even the Win32 people,
and even though porting the code from one to the other isn't
entirely effortless).
I note the absence of "Practice of Programming", which I consider
excellent.
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CBFalconer said:
Richard Heathfield wrote:
>Tor Rustad said:
... snip ...
>>
>>That completes the recommendations from Richard H., which lack
any references to platform-dependent coding, if OP is using
UNIX/Linux, a book on POSIX (e.g. Stevens APUE
http://www.kohala.com/start/) is much more useful, than many of
the above suggestions.
Well, this is a platform-independent group. If I were pushed for
platform-specific recommendations , I would start off by saying
APUE to the POSIX people, PW (Petzold, 5th edition ONLY) to the
Win32 people, and UNP to both groups (yes, even the Win32 people,
and even though porting the code from one to the other isn't
entirely effortless).
I note the absence of "Practice of Programming", which I consider
excellent.
But it's not about C! :-)
Yes, of course you're right - but my "recommende d reading" list is a
list of ***C*** books. If you look carefully at the list on my site,
you will also note the absence of APUE (see above), PW (again, see
above), UNP (ditto), Stevens' "TCP/IP Illustrated" series, TAOCP, "Code
Complete", the Wirth book, Stroustrup, Hofstadter, and the entire
Discworld series, not to mention the Bible and Shakespeare.
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Tor Rustad <to********@hot mail.comwrites:
[...]
4. C: A Reference Manual, 4th Ed. Harbison & Steele
Comment: OP don't need H&S now, just use K&R2.
There's a 5th edition of H&S. Unlike K&R2, it covers C99 (and yes, it
clearly distinguishes which features are new in C99). I recommend it
as a reference, as opposed to a tutorial.
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Richard Heathfield wrote:
CBFalconer said:
.... snip ...
>
>I note the absence of "Practice of Programming", which I consider
excellent.
But it's not about C! :-)
But largely. The association with other languages gives the reader
a good introduction to the general subject of languages. It's
probably closer to on-topic here than 50% of the enquiries.
>
Yes, of course you're right - but my "recommende d reading" list is
a list of ***C*** books. If you look carefully at the list on my
site, you will also note the absence of APUE (see above), PW (again,
see above), UNP (ditto), Stevens' "TCP/IP Illustrated" series,
TAOCP, "Code Complete", the Wirth book, Stroustrup, Hofstadter, and
the entire Discworld series, not to mention the Bible and Shakespeare.
How could you leave the Bible and Shakespeare, not to mention the
Koran, off that list? :-)
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Richard Heathfield wrote:
Tor Rustad said:
[...]
>7. ISO/IEC 9899:1999 ISO.
Comment: Latest draft is available online, likely a far too advanced
text for beginners.
He's hardly a beginner. He's completed almost all the exercises in K&R2!
Well done indeed and a very good starting point for OP, but still... at
least for me, it took years before advancing above "beginner". :-/
>11. Algorithms in C, 3rd Ed. Robert Sedgewick
Comment: Excellent book, if OP is interested in algorithms
If he isn't, he sure picked a funny career.
Who says OP has picked a career yet? Not everyone are CS students you
know. :)
Anyway, there are multiple possible paths, OP's interest might be in
Communication, Cryptology, Data Compression, Compiler Design or even
Operating Systems, if so, I'm just saying that it makes sense to
consider C book on such a topic first.
Knuth & Bentley has also some nice books on algorithms.
>14. Programs and Data Structures in C, Leendert Ammeraal.
Comment: I haven't this book either, but IMO a book on Data Structures
is the natural step after K&R2.
I do have a copy, and it's first-class.
OK, I take your word for it. I used "Data Structures Using C" by
Tenenbaum, Langsam & Augenstein, which I can recommended too. However,
by looking at the ACCU reviews, "Advanced C Struct Programming" by John
W.L. Ogilvie, got the highest score of all the C books on data structures.
>That completes the recommendations from Richard H., which lack any
references to platform-dependent coding, if OP is using UNIX/Linux, a
book on POSIX (e.g. Stevens APUE http://www.kohala.com/start/) is much
more useful, than many of the above suggestions.
Well, this is a platform-independent group.
Sure is, still the world consist of more than strictly conforming C
programs. :)
If I were pushed for
platform-specific recommendations , I would start off by saying APUE to
the POSIX people, PW (Petzold, 5th edition ONLY) to the Win32 people,
and UNP to both groups (yes, even the Win32 people, and even though
porting the code from one to the other isn't entirely effortless).
I have not read "Programmin g Windows" by Petzold, but rather "Advanced
Windows" by Jeffrey Richter, which was sufficient along with the MSDN
doc. I do agree that Stevens UNP is useful for all, even his APUE, won't
hurt the Windows people.
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Keith Thompson wrote:
Tor Rustad <to********@hot mail.comwrites:
[...]
>4. C: A Reference Manual, 4th Ed. Harbison & Steele
Comment: OP don't need H&S now, just use K&R2.
There's a 5th edition of H&S. Unlike K&R2, it covers C99 (and yes, it
clearly distinguishes which features are new in C99). I recommend it
as a reference, as opposed to a tutorial.
I do have the H&S 5th ed. for reference, but don't see this as the
natural next step for OP, which IMO is rather a good book on data
structures and using the C FAQ.
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Tor Rustad said:
Richard Heathfield wrote:
>Tor Rustad said:
[...]
>>7. ISO/IEC 9899:1999 ISO.
Comment: Latest draft is available online, likely a far too advanced
text for beginners.
He's hardly a beginner. He's completed almost all the exercises in
K&R2!
Well done indeed and a very good starting point for OP, but still...
at least for me, it took years before advancing above "beginner". :-/
I proceeded quite smoothly and quickly up the ladder to 'expert' - and
then I landed on comp.lang.c, which is one hell of a snake.
>>That completes the recommendations from Richard H., which lack any
references to platform-dependent coding, if OP is using UNIX/Linux,
a book on POSIX (e.g. Stevens APUE http://www.kohala.com/start/) is
much more useful, than many of the above suggestions.
Well, this is a platform-independent group.
Sure is, still the world consist of more than strictly conforming C
programs. :)
Huh? Whatever gave you that idea? ;-)
>
>If I were pushed for
platform-specific recommendations , I would start off by saying APUE
to the POSIX people, PW (Petzold, 5th edition ONLY) to the Win32
people, and UNP to both groups (yes, even the Win32 people, and even
though porting the code from one to the other isn't entirely
effortless).
I have not read "Programmin g Windows" by Petzold, but rather "Advanced
Windows" by Jeffrey Richter, which was sufficient along with the MSDN
doc.
I, too, have Richter's book, but it's a bit heavy IMHO - Petzold is
gentler, and very thorough. Having said that, his C really sucks. :-)
I do agree that Stevens UNP is useful for all, even his APUE,
won't hurt the Windows people.
That depends on how hard you throw it.
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Richard Heathfield wrote:
Tor Rustad said: (referencing a list of recommended texts)
15. Numerical Recipes in C
Comment: Mainly relevant for physics and chemistry students, not the
place to learn C.
Yeah, I ought to strip that off the list, really.
Or, place it on the list of "Decent books that describe
reasonable algorithms, but with extremely poor coding
style and practice." (I haven't looked at it for years,
and perhaps my memory misleads me, but I'm pretty
sure I learned a LOT of bad habits from that book.)
--
William Pursell
Tor Rustad wrote:
Richard Heathfield wrote:
>Tor Rustad said:
[...]
>>14. Programs and Data Structures in C, Leendert Ammeraal.
Comment: I haven't this book either, but IMO a book on Data Structures
is the natural step after K&R2.
I do have a copy, and it's first-class.
OK, I take your word for it. I used "Data Structures Using C" by
Tenenbaum, Langsam & Augenstein, which I can recommended too. However,
by looking at the ACCU reviews, "Advanced C Struct Programming" by John
W.L. Ogilvie, got the highest score of all the C books on data structures.
I just searched Amazon for Ogilvie's book: http://www.amazon.com/Advanced-Struc.../dp/047151943X
and did remember it when I saw the cover image! LOL, it must be more
than 15 years ago I worked my way through that one.
Not sure if I agree with Francis Glassborow ACCU review as "Highly
Recommended" though, when Tanenbaum only received "Recommende d".
However, Glassborow do have point, since you only really *work* your way
through a good book. Ogilvie and Tanenbaum are not really overlapping
books, Ogilvie's book was more about program design, i.e. how to master
real-life projects, i.e. designing and programming bigger and more
complex systems.
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