C programming Newbee

[Kanthi Kiran Narisetti]

Hi ALL,

I am new to C and programming . I need suggestions for the IDE to be
used as a begginer and should I start on Windows or Linux ??

I am also looking for resources for C programming on Internet with
examples on each concept.

I appreciate if any one can help me in this regard.

Kanthi Kiran.

[Mark McIntyre]

On 12 Mar 2005 09:10:59 -0800, in comp.lang.c , "Kanthi Kiran Narisetti"
<Te********@gma il.com> wrote:

Hi ALL,

I am new to C and programming . I need suggestions for the IDE to be
used as a begginer and should I start on Windows or Linux ??

Doesn't matter what OS - you choose the one that works best for you in other
ways. If you plan to graduate into programming professionally, you'll probably
need to do GUI programming for both.

As for the GUI, MS, Borland and probably a few others have free/cheap downloads
of either old or beta versions of their compiler toolsets, and there's at least
one free IDE available for windows. A google search should show them up.

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Mark McIntyre
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CLC readme: <http://www.ungerhu.com/jxh/clc.welcome.txt >

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[Chris Hills]

In article <11************ **********@o13g 2000cwo.googleg roups.com>,
Kanthi Kiran Narisetti <Te********@gma il.com> writes

Hi ALL,

I am new to C and programming . I need suggestions for the IDE to be
used as a begginer and should I start on Windows or Linux ??

Why do you want to learn to program?
Why C?

This should answer the question as to which platform and partly which
IDE. Maybe even which compiler.


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[beliavsky]

no*@given.out wrote:

(note: Don't confuse C with C++ ... C++ is a superset of C that uses more complex (read: "confusing" ) programming concepts; something you probably shouldn't tackle until you are comfortable in C first.)

I think C++ may be easier to learn than C if one uses the Standard
Template Library. For example, the C++ vector is easier to use and
safer (out-of-bounds errors are caught) than the C/C++ array. One can
get more done in C++ than C without using "complex programming
concepts" such as pointers. There is a trend in C++ books to use the
STL early, for example in the books "C++ Primer" and "Accelerate d C++".

Maybe we both agree that the basics of procedural programming -- loops,
if statements, functions should be mastered before tackling
object-oriented programming.

[Erik de Castro Lopo]

be*******@aol.c om wrote:

I think C++ may be easier to learn than C if one uses the Standard
Template Library.
Sorry, but I think thats one of the worst pieces of advice I
have ever seen on usenet (which I have been reading regularly
since 1991).
For example, the C++ vector is easier to use and
safer (out-of-bounds errors are caught) than the C/C++ array.

The STL related error messages produced by all the C++
compilers I have ever seen are simply atrocious. C++ is
also the most complex, baroque and least forgiving
programming language in existence.

The other poster didn't state whether he already programmed
in other langugages or whether C was going to be his first.

If he is looking for a first lagunage C++ is an especially
bad choice in comparison to Java, Python and even C.

If the original poster already knows another language it
probablt is Java or C++ and he is looking to learn C.

Erik
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[Kanthi Kiran Narisetti]

Hi,

I an Windows Systems administrator (wanting to migrate to Linux
Administration) with little or no knowledge on programming. I want to
learn a programming language like C to learn the concepts of
programming and then switch to Prog Lang which suits my job like Perl .
As i have done C upto basic level in the past in my academics i felt i
should start with C which would be easy and i can pick up fast.

What i am looking is for now is a good online resources for C with
examples for easy and fast understanding or any tutorials with
examples.

I wanted to start of with Linux Programming with examples as it had
good reviews on net but this book is not available at my place :-(

Thank You..
Kanthi

[pepsikolanut]

Hi

I don't know of any good online resource, but "Schaum's Outline of
Programming with C" is a good book. It's like 10 bucs. thin, concise
and to the point.

As far as an ide goes, I think you should stick with something simple
(maybe even notepad?). Fancy ides will only distract you with features
that you'll never use at this level.

[beliavsky]

pepsikolanut wrote:

<snip>

As far as an ide goes, I think you should stick with something simple
(maybe even notepad?). Fancy ides will only distract you with features that you'll never use at this level.

I don't like fancy IDEs either, but the syntax coloring and smart
indenting of text editors such as Emacs or XEmacs (both free) is very
helpful, especially when there are modes for many different programming
languages (so one does not need to learn a separate editor for each
language), including C. Notepad was not designed as a programming
editor and does not have these features, I believe, so I would not
recommend it for writing code.

[Mark F. Haigh]

Kanthi Kiran Narisetti wrote:

Hi,

I an Windows Systems administrator (wanting to migrate to Linux
Administration) with little or no knowledge on programming. I want to learn a programming language like C to learn the concepts of
programming and then switch to Prog Lang which suits my job like Perl

<snip>

I suggest you forget about C for the time being. Get an HP TestDrive
account, and write shell scripts on different Unix platforms for the
next 3 months. Play around with awk, sed, grep and friends.

After that, spend a year or two on Perl. Carefully read "Programmin g
Perl", and complete several ambitios real-world projects using Perl.
Tirelessly refactor and revisit your code. Attempt to master Perl.

Later on down the road, if you find that you still want to learn C,
then your experience with the Unix environment and your general
programming experience is going to make life much easier for you.

Feel free to ignore my advice. If you do, though, remember to read the
FAQ before posting your questions.
Mark F. Haigh
mf*****@sbcglob al.net

[Erik de Castro Lopo]

Kanthi Kiran Narisetti wrote:

Hi,

I an Windows Systems administrator (wanting to migrate to Linux
Administration) with little or no knowledge on programming. I want to
learn a programming language like C to learn the concepts of
programming and then switch to Prog Lang which suits my job like Perl .

OK, now we know what you want.

If you eventually want to switch to Perl, why learn C first?
Quite honestly, it doesn't make all that much sense to learn
C as a first programming language.

And if you are thinking of Perl, why not try Python instead?
Python fulfils many of the same roles as Perl but is far more
readable and easier for beginners.

Erik
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