Hi All,
We have a windows from application written in C#, there we have used Browser
COM and other basic libraries present in standard .NET/C# SDK. So the next
part is to make this appliaction available to Unix and Mac platform. I have
couple of questions here
1. What are the possibilities we have of doing some thing like this?
2. What are the technical chalenges we will face of doing this?
3. What are the direct indirect solution we have to achive our goal?
4. What short of support we can get from MONO, ROTOR, and WINE?
Please shade some light on these ........ I really appreciate it..
Add what ever comment you have becos we deadly need lots of ideas.
Thanks,
Regards,
Nirosh.
Nov 15 '05
14  1980 
Thanks for the reply Daniel
What we have right now is a Winform application that purely uses Microsoft
Web Browser COM for content browsing and many other operations. The Winform
application is a thin client and it is commnicating with a Web service
interface (that is a content repository) to download and view the content.
They are SCORM compliant (if you don't know just ignore this it is a
standard). So I don't mind the effort we are ready, but the issue is the
correct path and the potential problem we may face of getting our
application run on MAC and Unix. I even don't mind going for Mozilla. We do
lots of marking on the content like we highlight certain part of the content
and we add annotations so on plus we drag drop content to create short notes
there we use html dom do get access to the html document so if mozilla can
support these we are OK. But if there is any other way which we can get the
Ms Browser COM work in other plat form we will choose that root. if you know
can you please comment on the WINE and it usage here.
Nirosh.
"Daniel O'Connell [C# MVP]" <onyxkirx@--NOSPAM--comcast.net> wrote in
message news:O7******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP10.phx.gbl... You won't. Browsers and other interop are often the biggest platform
compatibility issues you'll have. While COM is not soley tied to windows,
most, if not all other systems do not run COM normally(there are COM
implementations for unix, probably macs as well). As a result you will
have alot of work to get things going.
What are you attempting to do? If you just want to host the browser
locally, you could look into embedding mozilla or another OSS browser(assumin g
licensing will suit you). If you need automation you will hav eto invest
in platform specific modules(which can be tricky, mono annoyingly claims to
be windows XP) which performs the work for you. How are you interfacing with
say Mozilla now? Or are you totally dependent on IE?
"Champika Nirosh" <cn*****@textce ntric.lk> wrote in message
news:eA******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP11.phx.gbl... Thanks for the reply any thought on how we can get the Browser COM work
in MAC?
<.> wrote in message news:#J******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP10.phx.gbl... COM is not platform independant, COM is a Microsoft technology.
Anything under System.* namespaces SHOULD be platform neutral .
"Champika Nirosh" <cn*****@textce ntric.lk> wrote in message
news:#5******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP11.phx.gbl...
> Hi All,
>
> We have a windows from application written in C#, there we have used
Browser
> COM and other basic libraries present in standard .NET/C# SDK. So
the next > part is to make this appliaction available to Unix and Mac platform.
I have
> couple of questions here
>
> 1. What are the possibilities we have of doing some thing like this?
> 2. What are the technical chalenges we will face of doing this?
> 3. What are the direct indirect solution we have to achive our goal?
> 4. What short of support we can get from MONO, ROTOR, and WINE?
>
> Please shade some light on these ........ I really appreciate it..
> Add what ever comment you have becos we deadly need lots of ideas.
>
> Thanks,
> Regards,
> Nirosh.
>
>
"Champika Nirosh" <cn*****@textce ntric.lk> wrote in message
news:e%******** *******@tk2msft ngp13.phx.gbl.. . Thanks for the reply Daniel
What we have right now is a Winform application that purely uses Microsoft
Web Browser COM for content browsing and many other operations. The
Winform application is a thin client and it is commnicating with a Web service
interface (that is a content repository) to download and view the content.
They are SCORM compliant (if you don't know just ignore this it is a
standard). So I don't mind the effort we are ready, but the issue is the
correct path and the potential problem we may face of getting our
application run on MAC and Unix. I even don't mind going for Mozilla. We
do lots of marking on the content like we highlight certain part of the
content and we add annotations so on plus we drag drop content to create short
notes there we use html dom do get access to the html document so if mozilla can
support these we are OK. But if there is any other way which we can get
the Ms Browser COM work in other plat form we will choose that root. if you
know can you please comment on the WINE and it usage here.
Unfortunatly I know very little about WINE, I would say simply test it and
see what happens.
Getting the MS Browser control to work off platform is likely going to be
hard, if possible. Examining Mozilla for the features you need would be my
first suggestion(if they don't have waht you want...khtml or a few of the
other OSS ones may). However, you may want to research how to interface with
the Mac version of IE, its probably not the most popular browser on the
platform but it does still exist(although I don't know its state of
maintainence).
Currently I don't know of a standalone managed code html renderer. Its
something I want to see, something I've even considered trying, but time and
a low level dislike of html have kept me from doing so, ;).
Sorry I can't offer much advice, I hope this helps in some way. Nirosh.
"Daniel O'Connell [C# MVP]" <onyxkirx@--NOSPAM--comcast.net> wrote in
message news:O7******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP10.phx.gbl... You won't. Browsers and other interop are often the biggest platform
compatibility issues you'll have. While COM is not soley tied to
windows, most, if not all other systems do not run COM normally(there are COM
implementations for unix, probably macs as well). As a result you will have alot of work to get things going.
What are you attempting to do? If you just want to host the browser
locally, you could look into embedding mozilla or another OSS browser(assumin g
licensing will suit you). If you need automation you will hav eto invest
in platform specific modules(which can be tricky, mono annoyingly claims to
be windows XP) which performs the work for you. How are you interfacing
with say Mozilla now? Or are you totally dependent on IE?
"Champika Nirosh" <cn*****@textce ntric.lk> wrote in message
news:eA******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP11.phx.gbl... Thanks for the reply any thought on how we can get the Browser COM
work in MAC?
<.> wrote in message news:#J******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP10.phx.gbl...
> COM is not platform independant, COM is a Microsoft technology.
>
> Anything under System.* namespaces SHOULD be platform neutral .
>
>
>
>
>
> "Champika Nirosh" <cn*****@textce ntric.lk> wrote in message
> news:#5******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP11.phx.gbl...
> > Hi All,
> >
> > We have a windows from application written in C#, there we have
used > Browser
> > COM and other basic libraries present in standard .NET/C# SDK. So the next
> > part is to make this appliaction available to Unix and Mac
platform. I > have
> > couple of questions here
> >
> > 1. What are the possibilities we have of doing some thing like
this? > > 2. What are the technical chalenges we will face of doing this?
> > 3. What are the direct indirect solution we have to achive our
goal? > > 4. What short of support we can get from MONO, ROTOR, and WINE?
> >
> > Please shade some light on these ........ I really appreciate it..
> > Add what ever comment you have becos we deadly need lots of ideas.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Regards,
> > Nirosh.
> >
> >
>
>
Highly appreciate your interest on helping me.. we will see how it goes, the
info I gathered from here is truely helpful
Nirosh.
"Daniel O'Connell [C# MVP]" <onyxkirx@--NOSPAM--comcast.net> wrote in
message news:eN******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP10.phx.gbl...
"Champika Nirosh" <cn*****@textce ntric.lk> wrote in message
news:e%******** *******@tk2msft ngp13.phx.gbl.. . Thanks for the reply Daniel
What we have right now is a Winform application that purely uses
Microsoft Web Browser COM for content browsing and many other operations. The Winform application is a thin client and it is commnicating with a Web service
interface (that is a content repository) to download and view the
content. They are SCORM compliant (if you don't know just ignore this it is a
standard). So I don't mind the effort we are ready, but the issue is the
correct path and the potential problem we may face of getting our
application run on MAC and Unix. I even don't mind going for Mozilla. We
do lots of marking on the content like we highlight certain part of the
content and we add annotations so on plus we drag drop content to create short
notes there we use html dom do get access to the html document so if mozilla
can support these we are OK. But if there is any other way which we can get
the Ms Browser COM work in other plat form we will choose that root. if you
know can you please comment on the WINE and it usage here.
Unfortunatly I know very little about WINE, I would say simply test it and
see what happens.
Getting the MS Browser control to work off platform is likely going to be
hard, if possible. Examining Mozilla for the features you need would be my
first suggestion(if they don't have waht you want...khtml or a few of the
other OSS ones may). However, you may want to research how to interface
with the Mac version of IE, its probably not the most popular browser on the
platform but it does still exist(although I don't know its state of
maintainence).
Currently I don't know of a standalone managed code html renderer. Its
something I want to see, something I've even considered trying, but time
and a low level dislike of html have kept me from doing so, ;).
Sorry I can't offer much advice, I hope this helps in some way. Nirosh.
"Daniel O'Connell [C# MVP]" <onyxkirx@--NOSPAM--comcast.net> wrote in
message news:O7******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP10.phx.gbl... You won't. Browsers and other interop are often the biggest platform
compatibility issues you'll have. While COM is not soley tied to windows, most, if not all other systems do not run COM normally(there are COM
implementations for unix, probably macs as well). As a result you will
have alot of work to get things going.
What are you attempting to do? If you just want to host the browser
locally, you could look into embedding mozilla or another OSS browser(assumin g
licensing will suit you). If you need automation you will hav eto
invest in platform specific modules(which can be tricky, mono annoyingly claims
to be windows XP) which performs the work for you. How are you interfacing with say Mozilla now? Or are you totally dependent on IE?
"Champika Nirosh" <cn*****@textce ntric.lk> wrote in message
news:eA******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP11.phx.gbl...
> Thanks for the reply any thought on how we can get the Browser COM work in > MAC?
>
> <.> wrote in message news:#J******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP10.phx.gbl...
> > COM is not platform independant, COM is a Microsoft technology.
> >
> > Anything under System.* namespaces SHOULD be platform neutral .
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Champika Nirosh" <cn*****@textce ntric.lk> wrote in message
> > news:#5******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP11.phx.gbl...
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > We have a windows from application written in C#, there we have
used > > Browser
> > > COM and other basic libraries present in standard .NET/C# SDK.
So the > next
> > > part is to make this appliaction available to Unix and Mac
platform. I > > have
> > > couple of questions here
> > >
> > > 1. What are the possibilities we have of doing some thing like
this? > > > 2. What are the technical chalenges we will face of doing this?
> > > 3. What are the direct indirect solution we have to achive our goal? > > > 4. What short of support we can get from MONO, ROTOR, and WINE?
> > >
> > > Please shade some light on these ........ I really appreciate
it.. > > > Add what ever comment you have becos we deadly need lots of
ideas. > > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Regards,
> > > Nirosh.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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