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how come m$Office isn't written in .net?

how come Open Office isn't written in j2ee?

how come dbms systems aren't written in either?

how come browsers aren't written in either?

how come RealPlayer, MediaPlayer and all applications
that need speed are written in c++ ? (except for
LimeWire, which is a piece of shit ).

how come Linux and all Linux applications are written
in c/c++ ?

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Nov 15 '05 #1
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Roedy Green:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 05:22:49 GMT, 43 <ja*****@earthl ink.net> wrote or
quoted :
how come m$Office isn't written in .net?

how come Open Office isn't written in j2ee?


Because these are both server side technologies. Editing a document
is a solitary activity. It works best with instantaneous response to
each keystroke.


they are not 'server side'

web services are 'server side'

windows client and console applications are client side.

java applications and applets are both client side.

net beans can be either. rmi means strong clients and servers.

bottom line .net/j2ee can't write the p2p applications
that are going to dominate the next 10 years.

--
http://geeks4dean.com Dean '04
Linux - Where the Beat, Meet the Elite

Nov 15 '05 #2

"Roedy Green" <ro***@mindprod .com> wrote in message
news:hm******** *************** *********@4ax.c om...
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 05:22:49 GMT, 43 <ja*****@earthl ink.net> wrote or
quoted :
how come m$Office isn't written in .net?

how come Open Office isn't written in j2ee?


Because these are both server side technologies. Editing a document
is a solitary activity. It works best with instantaneous response to
each keystroke.


Actually,there is a good chunk of Office 2003 in .NET and it will
be moving to completely .NET switfly like most if not all MS products.

Windows 2003 Server depends heavily on the .NET Framework (whack your
c:\windows\asse mbly folder in Safe Mode and reboot and check the
Event Viewer).

I recall hearing a statistic that in Longhorn, large chunks of the
Win32 API are being moved to managed code. The API will go from
something
like 5x,xxx functions to 8,xxx functions with the difference existing
in new OO .NET assemblies.

Most of the new server products coming out require the Framework to
be installed. They are either entirely written in .NET (CMS, BizTalk),
or
partially (Commerce Server), or have strong ties (Win2K3 Server,
Exchange 2003, etc)

-c
Nov 15 '05 #3

"43" <ja*****@earthl ink.net> wrote in message
news:pa******** *************** *****@earthlink .net...
Roedy Green:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 05:22:49 GMT, 43 <ja*****@earthl ink.net> wrote or quoted :
how come m$Office isn't written in .net?

how come Open Office isn't written in j2ee?


Because these are both server side technologies. Editing a document
is a solitary activity. It works best with instantaneous response to each keystroke.


they are not 'server side'

web services are 'server side'

windows client and console applications are client side.

java applications and applets are both client side.

net beans can be either. rmi means strong clients and servers.

bottom line .net/j2ee can't write the p2p applications
that are going to dominate the next 10 years.


..NET certainly can. I don't know about Java/J2EE, I won't comment
in that regard, but .NET certainly can.

In fact, MS Research has a rather large P2P project implemented
in the .NET Framework and it's pretty impressive.

-c
Nov 15 '05 #4
In comp.lang.java. advocacy 43 <ja*****@earthl ink.net> wrote:
: 43 <ja*****@earthl ink.net> wrote or quoted :

:>>how come m$Office isn't written in .net?
:>>
:>>how come Open Office isn't written in j2ee?
:>
:> Because these are both server side technologies. Editing a document
:> is a solitary activity. It works best with instantaneous response to
:> each keystroke.

: they are not 'server side'

J2EE is - as much as, say PHP is.
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Nov 15 '05 #5
Indeed. You cannot expect millions lines of code rewritten in .NET
overnight.

Greetz,
-- Rob.

Chad Myers wrote:
"Roedy Green" <ro***@mindprod .com> wrote in message
news:hm******** *************** *********@4ax.c om...
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 05:22:49 GMT, 43 <ja*****@earthl ink.net> wrote or
quoted :
how come m$Office isn't written in .net?

how come Open Office isn't written in j2ee?


Because these are both server side technologies. Editing a document
is a solitary activity. It works best with instantaneous response to
each keystroke.


Actually,there is a good chunk of Office 2003 in .NET and it will
be moving to completely .NET switfly like most if not all MS products.

Windows 2003 Server depends heavily on the .NET Framework (whack your
c:\windows\asse mbly folder in Safe Mode and reboot and check the
Event Viewer).

I recall hearing a statistic that in Longhorn, large chunks of the
Win32 API are being moved to managed code. The API will go from
something
like 5x,xxx functions to 8,xxx functions with the difference existing
in new OO .NET assemblies.

Most of the new server products coming out require the Framework to
be installed. They are either entirely written in .NET (CMS, BizTalk),
or
partially (Commerce Server), or have strong ties (Win2K3 Server,
Exchange 2003, etc)

-c

Nov 15 '05 #6
On sourceforge.net there are currently..
http://sourceforge.net/softwaremap/t...p?form_cat=160

C# (919 projects)
"Rob Tillie" <Ro********@stu dent.tul.edu> wrote in message
news:ua******** ******@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl...
Indeed. You cannot expect millions lines of code rewritten in .NET
overnight.

Greetz,
-- Rob.

Chad Myers wrote:
"Roedy Green" <ro***@mindprod .com> wrote in message
news:hm******** *************** *********@4ax.c om...
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 05:22:49 GMT, 43 <ja*****@earthl ink.net> wrote or
quoted :

how come m$Office isn't written in .net?

how come Open Office isn't written in j2ee?

Because these are both server side technologies. Editing a document
is a solitary activity. It works best with instantaneous response to
each keystroke.


Actually,there is a good chunk of Office 2003 in .NET and it will
be moving to completely .NET switfly like most if not all MS products.

Windows 2003 Server depends heavily on the .NET Framework (whack your
c:\windows\asse mbly folder in Safe Mode and reboot and check the
Event Viewer).

I recall hearing a statistic that in Longhorn, large chunks of the
Win32 API are being moved to managed code. The API will go from
something
like 5x,xxx functions to 8,xxx functions with the difference existing
in new OO .NET assemblies.

Most of the new server products coming out require the Framework to
be installed. They are either entirely written in .NET (CMS, BizTalk),
or
partially (Commerce Server), or have strong ties (Win2K3 Server,
Exchange 2003, etc)

-c


Nov 15 '05 #7
MIS is partly .NET also.
"Rob Tillie" <Ro********@stu dent.tul.edu> wrote in message
news:ua******** ******@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl...
Indeed. You cannot expect millions lines of code rewritten in .NET
overnight.

Greetz,
-- Rob.

Chad Myers wrote:
"Roedy Green" <ro***@mindprod .com> wrote in message
news:hm******** *************** *********@4ax.c om...
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 05:22:49 GMT, 43 <ja*****@earthl ink.net> wrote or
quoted :

how come m$Office isn't written in .net?

how come Open Office isn't written in j2ee?

Because these are both server side technologies. Editing a document
is a solitary activity. It works best with instantaneous response to
each keystroke.


Actually,there is a good chunk of Office 2003 in .NET and it will
be moving to completely .NET switfly like most if not all MS products.

Windows 2003 Server depends heavily on the .NET Framework (whack your
c:\windows\asse mbly folder in Safe Mode and reboot and check the
Event Viewer).

I recall hearing a statistic that in Longhorn, large chunks of the
Win32 API are being moved to managed code. The API will go from
something
like 5x,xxx functions to 8,xxx functions with the difference existing
in new OO .NET assemblies.

Most of the new server products coming out require the Framework to
be installed. They are either entirely written in .NET (CMS, BizTalk),
or
partially (Commerce Server), or have strong ties (Win2K3 Server,
Exchange 2003, etc)

-c


Nov 15 '05 #8
..Not is not a technology but a marketing crap (AKA markitecture).
Converting M$Office to the .Not environment is easy... just start market
it as M$Office.Not
43 wrote:
how come m$Office isn't written in .net?

how come Open Office isn't written in j2ee?

how come dbms systems aren't written in either?

how come browsers aren't written in either?

how come RealPlayer, MediaPlayer and all applications
that need speed are written in c++ ? (except for
LimeWire, which is a piece of shit ).

how come Linux and all Linux applications are written
in c/c++ ?


Nov 15 '05 #9
Look what Moshe Sayag wrote in article <bi**********@n ew-usenet.uk.sun.c om>,
on Thu, 21 Aug 2003 11:24:33 +0200
.Not is not a technology but a marketing crap (AKA markitecture).
Converting M$Office to the .Not environment is easy... just start market
it as M$Office.Not
43 wrote:
how come m$Office isn't written in .net?

how come Open Office isn't written in j2ee?


You show your lack of knowledge, .Net is a fully developed technology
designed by the best. C# for example is a programmers dream lang.
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Thanks
Mark Marsella
Nov 15 '05 #10

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