In terms of developing an asp.net (vb.net) 2.0 web site with a database
backend (using my own mySQL not sql server),
What the benefits of buying Visual Studio Professional over the free web
express edition?
JJ
19  1499 
only for Web?
None!
VStudio 2005 is a tool NOT ONLY for Web Forms but also for Window Forms,
Component design, ActiveX components, etc...
if you only want to develop a website, Visual Studio Web Developer Express
is the ideal tool!... and it's free.
--
Bruno Alexandre
(a Portuguese in Københanv, Danmark)
"JJ" <ab*@xyz.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:Ox******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP04.phx.gbl... In terms of developing an asp.net (vb.net) 2.0 web site with a database
backend (using my own mySQL not sql server),
What the benefits of buying Visual Studio Professional over the free web
express edition?
JJ
So you can do all these things:
Use Master Pages, Develop User Controls, and have the full features of
Visual Basic for coding the background pages?
"Bruno Alexandre" <br*********@gm ail.com> wrote in message
news:On******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP05.phx.gbl... only for Web?
None!
VStudio 2005 is a tool NOT ONLY for Web Forms but also for Window Forms,
Component design, ActiveX components, etc...
if you only want to develop a website, Visual Studio Web Developer Express
is the ideal tool!... and it's free.
--
Bruno Alexandre
(a Portuguese in Københanv, Danmark)
"JJ" <ab*@xyz.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:Ox******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP04.phx.gbl... In terms of developing an asp.net (vb.net) 2.0 web site with a database
backend (using my own mySQL not sql server),
What the benefits of buying Visual Studio Professional over the free web
express edition?
JJ
in a really simple answer: yep...
:-)
--
Bruno Alexandre
(a Portuguese in Københanv, Danmark)
"JJ" <ab*@xyz.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:%2******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP03.phx.gbl. .. So you can do all these things:
Use Master Pages, Develop User Controls, and have the full features of
Visual Basic for coding the background pages?
"Bruno Alexandre" <br*********@gm ail.com> wrote in message
news:On******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP05.phx.gbl... only for Web?
None!
VStudio 2005 is a tool NOT ONLY for Web Forms but also for Window Forms,
Component design, ActiveX components, etc...
if you only want to develop a website, Visual Studio Web Developer
Express is the ideal tool!... and it's free.
--
Bruno Alexandre
(a Portuguese in Københanv, Danmark)
"JJ" <ab*@xyz.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:Ox******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP04.phx.gbl... In terms of developing an asp.net (vb.net) 2.0 web site with a database
backend (using my own mySQL not sql server),
What the benefits of buying Visual Studio Professional over the free web
express edition?
JJ
There ARE some differences, are they differences you can live with? I can not
live with those differences because my environment requires source control,
remote database design, etc.
For product comparisons see: http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/pr...e/default.aspx
--
-Demetri
"Bruno Alexandre" wrote: in a really simple answer: yep...
:-)
--
Bruno Alexandre
(a Portuguese in Københanv, Danmark)
"JJ" <ab*@xyz.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:%2******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP03.phx.gbl. .. So you can do all these things:
Use Master Pages, Develop User Controls, and have the full features of
Visual Basic for coding the background pages?
"Bruno Alexandre" <br*********@gm ail.com> wrote in message
news:On******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP05.phx.gbl... only for Web?
None!
VStudio 2005 is a tool NOT ONLY for Web Forms but also for Window Forms,
Component design, ActiveX components, etc...
if you only want to develop a website, Visual Studio Web Developer
Express is the ideal tool!... and it's free.
--
Bruno Alexandre
(a Portuguese in Københanv, Danmark)
"JJ" <ab*@xyz.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:Ox******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP04.phx.gbl...
In terms of developing an asp.net (vb.net) 2.0 web site with a database
backend (using my own mySQL not sql server),
What the benefits of buying Visual Studio Professional over the free web
express edition?
JJ
so You need to warn the person that things are only for speciall cases,
why give an opinion if you don't know the end? Why saying that the person
should aquire a linced version of visual studio (and that«s not cheap) if
the only propose is web developing for just one person or for whatever...
:-/
right?
--
Bruno Alexandre
(a Portuguese in Københanv, Danmark)
"Demetri" <De*****@discus sions.microsoft .com> escreveu na mensagem
news:29******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com... There ARE some differences, are they differences you can live with? I can
not
live with those differences because my environment requires source
control,
remote database design, etc.
For product comparisons see:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/pr...e/default.aspx
--
-Demetri
"Bruno Alexandre" wrote:
in a really simple answer: yep...
:-)
--
Bruno Alexandre
(a Portuguese in Københanv, Danmark)
"JJ" <ab*@xyz.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:%2******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP03.phx.gbl. .. > So you can do all these things:
> Use Master Pages, Develop User Controls, and have the full features of
> Visual Basic for coding the background pages?
>
>
> "Bruno Alexandre" <br*********@gm ail.com> wrote in message
> news:On******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP05.phx.gbl...
>> only for Web?
>>
>> None!
>>
>>
>> VStudio 2005 is a tool NOT ONLY for Web Forms but also for Window
>> Forms,
>> Component design, ActiveX components, etc...
>>
>> if you only want to develop a website, Visual Studio Web Developer
>> Express is the ideal tool!... and it's free.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Bruno Alexandre
>> (a Portuguese in Københanv, Danmark)
>>
>>
>> "JJ" <ab*@xyz.com> escreveu na mensagem
>> news:Ox******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP04.phx.gbl...
>>> In terms of developing an asp.net (vb.net) 2.0 web site with a
>>> database
>>> backend (using my own mySQL not sql server),
>>> What the benefits of buying Visual Studio Professional over the free
>>> web
>>> express edition?
>>>
>>> JJ
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
re: why give an opinion if you don't know the end?
I'd guess Demetri did it because the idea that they are the same product is incorrect.
I was about to post the same corrections, but Demetri beat me to it.
Btw, you're also right in that, for web developers who work stand-alone,
there's no need for source control but there might be a need for remote database design.
*everybody* can use that. :-)
(Even stand-alone developers, who might need to work with a remotely hosted SQL Server.)
There's other, subtler differences, like full option menus being available in Pro, but not in VWD,
just like the Class Designer and Object Test Benches aren't available in VWD, either.
VWD's XML editor has no support for XSLT, either.
Plus, Pro can run macros, and write and consume Add-ins and Install Packages,
and can also use Crystal Reports, which isn't available in VWD, which only has
SQL Server Reporting Services available.
Also, VWD doesn't support remote debugging, whil Pro does,
and there's no 64-bit compilker support in VWD.
There's a complete list of differences in the link Demetri sent:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/pr...e/default.aspx
Let's try to keep our posts limited to technical issues, OK ?
Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
aspnetfaq.com : http://www.aspnetfaq.com/
asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/
foros de asp.net, en español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
=============== =============== =====
"Bruno Alexandre" <br*********@gm ail.com> wrote in message
news:uP******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP03.phx.gbl... so You need to warn the person that things are only for speciall cases,
why give an opinion if you don't know the end? Why saying that the person should aquire a linced
version of visual studio (and that«s not cheap) if the only propose is web developing for just one
person or for whatever...
:-/
right?
--
Bruno Alexandre
(a Portuguese in Københanv, Danmark)
"Demetri" <De*****@discus sions.microsoft .com> escreveu na mensagem
news:29******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com... There ARE some differences, are they differences you can live with? I can not
live with those differences because my environment requires source control,
remote database design, etc.
For product comparisons see:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/pr...e/default.aspx
--
-Demetri
"Bruno Alexandre" wrote:
in a really simple answer: yep...
:-)
--
Bruno Alexandre
(a Portuguese in Københanv, Danmark)
"JJ" <ab*@xyz.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:%2******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP03.phx.gbl. ..
> So you can do all these things:
> Use Master Pages, Develop User Controls, and have the full features of
> Visual Basic for coding the background pages?
>
>
> "Bruno Alexandre" <br*********@gm ail.com> wrote in message
> news:On******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP05.phx.gbl...
>> only for Web?
>>
>> None!
>>
>>
>> VStudio 2005 is a tool NOT ONLY for Web Forms but also for Window Forms,
>> Component design, ActiveX components, etc...
>>
>> if you only want to develop a website, Visual Studio Web Developer
>> Express is the ideal tool!... and it's free.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Bruno Alexandre
>> (a Portuguese in Københanv, Danmark)
>>
>>
>> "JJ" <ab*@xyz.com> escreveu na mensagem
>> news:Ox******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP04.phx.gbl...
>>> In terms of developing an asp.net (vb.net) 2.0 web site with a database
>>> backend (using my own mySQL not sql server),
>>> What the benefits of buying Visual Studio Professional over the free web
>>> express edition?
>>>
>>> JJ
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
well, for the CR part I never like it cause is completely different from
window forms...
you can do a really cool and smooth reports that works great in your develop
machine, but once you publish the website in a host company, that will do no
good cause we need to have CR Server installed... and they never have
that...
so... for reporting under web, I always do in HMTL/CSS fashion way, until CR
send's the dll for free :-)
love VB for that :-)
--
Bruno Alexandre
(a Portuguese in Københanv, Danmark)
"Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@ nowhere.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:O5******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP05.phx.gbl... re: why give an opinion if you don't know the end?
I'd guess Demetri did it because the idea that they are the same product
is incorrect.
I was about to post the same corrections, but Demetri beat me to it.
Btw, you're also right in that, for web developers who work stand-alone,
there's no need for source control but there might be a need for remote
database design.
*everybody* can use that. :-)
(Even stand-alone developers, who might need to work with a remotely
hosted SQL Server.)
There's other, subtler differences, like full option menus being available
in Pro, but not in VWD,
just like the Class Designer and Object Test Benches aren't available in
VWD, either.
VWD's XML editor has no support for XSLT, either.
Plus, Pro can run macros, and write and consume Add-ins and Install
Packages,
and can also use Crystal Reports, which isn't available in VWD, which only
has
SQL Server Reporting Services available.
Also, VWD doesn't support remote debugging, whil Pro does,
and there's no 64-bit compilker support in VWD.
There's a complete list of differences in the link Demetri sent:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/pr...e/default.aspx
Let's try to keep our posts limited to technical issues, OK ?
Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
aspnetfaq.com : http://www.aspnetfaq.com/
asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/
foros de asp.net, en español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
=============== =============== =====
"Bruno Alexandre" <br*********@gm ail.com> wrote in message
news:uP******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP03.phx.gbl... so You need to warn the person that things are only for speciall cases,
why give an opinion if you don't know the end? Why saying that the person
should aquire a linced version of visual studio (and that«s not cheap) if
the only propose is web developing for just one person or for whatever...
:-/
right?
--
Bruno Alexandre
(a Portuguese in Københanv, Danmark)
"Demetri" <De*****@discus sions.microsoft .com> escreveu na mensagem
news:29******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com... There ARE some differences, are they differences you can live with? I
can not
live with those differences because my environment requires source
control,
remote database design, etc.
For product comparisons see:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/pr...e/default.aspx
--
-Demetri
"Bruno Alexandre" wrote:
in a really simple answer: yep...
:-)
--
Bruno Alexandre
(a Portuguese in Københanv, Danmark)
"JJ" <ab*@xyz.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:%2******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP03.phx.gbl. ..
> So you can do all these things:
> Use Master Pages, Develop User Controls, and have the full features
> of
> Visual Basic for coding the background pages?
>
>
> "Bruno Alexandre" <br*********@gm ail.com> wrote in message
> news:On******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP05.phx.gbl...
>> only for Web?
>>
>> None!
>>
>>
>> VStudio 2005 is a tool NOT ONLY for Web Forms but also for Window
>> Forms,
>> Component design, ActiveX components, etc...
>>
>> if you only want to develop a website, Visual Studio Web Developer
>> Express is the ideal tool!... and it's free.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Bruno Alexandre
>> (a Portuguese in Københanv, Danmark)
>>
>>
>> "JJ" <ab*@xyz.com> escreveu na mensagem
>> news:Ox******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP04.phx.gbl...
>>> In terms of developing an asp.net (vb.net) 2.0 web site with a
>>> database
>>> backend (using my own mySQL not sql server),
>>> What the benefits of buying Visual Studio Professional over the
>>> free web
>>> express edition?
>>>
>>> JJ
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
The truth is that I do want do 'prefessional' web development here, so I am
interested in all the limitations.
I am also a current user of Visual Studio 2003, which I use for both windows
forms programming and asp.net development.
However, the need to use master pages and .net 2.0 has pushed me to look at
Visual Studio 2005. I have my own web server and can develop with my web
server and database locally.
So as long as its not limiting me in any way with those sets of
requirements, then I can use the free version.
Having downloaded and started to use it though, it looks really different.
I'm already a little confused by the differnt format of the Global.asax
file - can't write in straight VB format (i.e. includes are different)
Is this differnce just express, or just one of the 'improvements;? ?
"Bruno Alexandre" <br*********@gm ail.com> wrote in message
news:un******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP02.phx.gbl... well, for the CR part I never like it cause is completely different from
window forms...
you can do a really cool and smooth reports that works great in your
develop machine, but once you publish the website in a host company, that
will do no good cause we need to have CR Server installed... and they
never have that...
so... for reporting under web, I always do in HMTL/CSS fashion way, until
CR send's the dll for free :-)
love VB for that :-)
--
Bruno Alexandre
(a Portuguese in Københanv, Danmark)
"Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@ nowhere.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:O5******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP05.phx.gbl... re: why give an opinion if you don't know the end?
I'd guess Demetri did it because the idea that they are the same product
is incorrect.
I was about to post the same corrections, but Demetri beat me to it.
Btw, you're also right in that, for web developers who work stand-alone,
there's no need for source control but there might be a need for remote
database design.
*everybody* can use that. :-)
(Even stand-alone developers, who might need to work with a remotely
hosted SQL Server.)
There's other, subtler differences, like full option menus being
available in Pro, but not in VWD,
just like the Class Designer and Object Test Benches aren't available in
VWD, either.
VWD's XML editor has no support for XSLT, either.
Plus, Pro can run macros, and write and consume Add-ins and Install
Packages,
and can also use Crystal Reports, which isn't available in VWD, which
only has
SQL Server Reporting Services available.
Also, VWD doesn't support remote debugging, whil Pro does,
and there's no 64-bit compilker support in VWD.
There's a complete list of differences in the link Demetri sent:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/pr...e/default.aspx
Let's try to keep our posts limited to technical issues, OK ?
Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
aspnetfaq.com : http://www.aspnetfaq.com/
asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/
foros de asp.net, en español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
=============== =============== =====
"Bruno Alexandre" <br*********@gm ail.com> wrote in message
news:uP******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP03.phx.gbl... so You need to warn the person that things are only for speciall cases,
why give an opinion if you don't know the end? Why saying that the
person should aquire a linced version of visual studio (and that«s not
cheap) if the only propose is web developing for just one person or for
whatever...
:-/
right?
--
Bruno Alexandre
(a Portuguese in Københanv, Danmark)
"Demetri" <De*****@discus sions.microsoft .com> escreveu na mensagem
news:29******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...
There ARE some differences, are they differences you can live with? I
can not
live with those differences because my environment requires source
control,
remote database design, etc.
For product comparisons see:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/pr...e/default.aspx
--
-Demetri
"Bruno Alexandre" wrote:
> in a really simple answer: yep...
>
> :-)
>
> --
>
> Bruno Alexandre
> (a Portuguese in Københanv, Danmark)
>
>
> "JJ" <ab*@xyz.com> escreveu na mensagem
> news:%2******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP03.phx.gbl. ..
> > So you can do all these things:
> > Use Master Pages, Develop User Controls, and have the full features
> > of
> > Visual Basic for coding the background pages?
> >
> >
> > "Bruno Alexandre" <br*********@gm ail.com> wrote in message
> > news:On******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP05.phx.gbl...
> >> only for Web?
> >>
> >> None!
> >>
> >>
> >> VStudio 2005 is a tool NOT ONLY for Web Forms but also for Window
> >> Forms,
> >> Component design, ActiveX components, etc...
> >>
> >> if you only want to develop a website, Visual Studio Web Developer
> >> Express is the ideal tool!... and it's free.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Bruno Alexandre
> >> (a Portuguese in Københanv, Danmark)
> >>
> >>
> >> "JJ" <ab*@xyz.com> escreveu na mensagem
> >> news:Ox******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP04.phx.gbl...
> >>> In terms of developing an asp.net (vb.net) 2.0 web site with a
> >>> database
> >>> backend (using my own mySQL not sql server),
> >>> What the benefits of buying Visual Studio Professional over the
> >>> free web
> >>> express edition?
> >>>
> >>> JJ
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
Visual Studio Standard Edition is also free if you want to use it
"JJ" <ab*@xyz.com> wrote in message news:Ox******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP04.phx.gbl... In terms of developing an asp.net (vb.net) 2.0 web site with a database backend (using my own mySQL not sql server),
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