Stop Steve, the advertising machine

[StopThisAdvertising]

Hi there,
We all know Steve Santos. He *really* is an advertising and job-hunting machine.

A lot of us have asked him *many* times and in different ways to stop his blatant advertising.
This has been repeated for years and years now. Result: Unfortunately nada.
He just doesn't give a shit. He is only very offensive in his answers to these requests.
Also he has been 'kill-filed' by many of us. Result: Nada.

He did not get enough answers anymore, so he went hiding his identity.
He asked questions as Ron, Tom, Rachel, Kathy, Katherine, Marie, Kristine, Heather and ????
Steve has *clearly* been trolling with his questions.
Nobody can stop him from doing this. A troll like he is, can change his/hers identity over and over.

It's obvious that he is *very* determined and willing to keep on advertising.
Maybe he thinks he has the 'right' to do so because he is a 'major player' in this and other newsgroups ?
But, I think maybe he can be forced to stop the advertising-shit.
No need for arguing, shouting or flaming (this has been done and won't help).
I have a little and simple plan for this. It might work . . .

Since a couple of weeks now I am sort of 'chasing' his advertisings as some of you may have noticed.
Result: Steve is *a little* annoyed.
While he accuses me of acting like I am GOD ??? , he now wishes me 'snake-hell' ????
(If you are interested: see last thread: 'MDE file shareware?')
Well I am not pretending to be any God at all. I am also not a 'major player' in this ng, like Steve thinks he is ...
I *just* want PC DataShit to stop his advertising-shit, that's *all* I am after.

Arno R

[Keith]

"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam. spam> wrote in message
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Craig,

Thank you for your response!

Why not thank me for mine, because you didn't like what you read?

[Larry Linson]

"PC Datasheet" wrote

Microsoft's Rules Of Conduct state,
" We ask that you refrain from posting
advertisements or solicitations that do
not pertain directly to the intended
use and purpose of the newsgroup
or chat."

Steve, I am reading this post in comp.databases. ms-access, where you and
your sockpuppets often post, and advertise, as well as in the Microsoft
newsgroups. I refer you to the very same FAQ whose link you provided to a
user in a different thread: http://www.mvps.org/access/netiquette.htm. That
is what applies in CDMA, not the sponsored newsgroup rules.

Microsoft can, if they wish, put a stop to your posting -- if it is as
bothersome as some say, then they should complain to Microsoft. As for
posting advertising here, they should complain to your ISP and news server.

Larry

[Larry Linson]

"PC Datasheet" wrote

This is a direct quote from http://www.mvps.org/access/netiquette.htm:
"The purpose of the group will be to
provide technical help to people who
use Access to create simple databases
as well as to people who use VBA to
create complex databases."

This, too, is a direct quote, and it is what you violate in CDMA. And, if it
is "bad form" in CDMA, it is also "bad form" in the sponsored newsgroups.

"The following are specifically forbidden in the CDMA newsgroup:

- Advertising of any kind, even if the product is free, a demo, or
otherwise. You may answer a question with a link to a commercial site which
pertains to the question. You may also add a phrase and/or link in your
signature.

- Job Postings of any kind, regardless if the posting is for help wanted or
someone looking for work.
a. You may, however, through your regular contributions to the group
find that you are solicited via e-mail with opportunities.
b. There are a variety of resources available to you via other avenues.
www.Dice.com is one such resource. Although not endorsed by this newsgroup,
it has certainly enabled a number of our participants."

Steve, I have asked you, a number of times, privately and politely, to cease
and desist with using the newsgroups as though they were your private
classified/display ads. Now a number of others have also asked. Will you
please stop trying to defend your indefensible position so we do not have to
try to get your ISP and news server to enforce their Terms of Service or
Authorized Use Policy?

We can, you know, also contact Microsoft's sponsored newsgroup
administrators and ask that they block you from those newsgroups -- it is
clear that you have violated the spirit of those groups sufficiently to
warrant that. You should count yourself lucky that no one has already done
so.

Why don't you go back to answering questions, not offering your paid help at
some point, and using a tasteful, no more than four lines, SIG with contact
information. If you have provided good answers, then people are likely to
contact you if they know you are in the database/development business.

Think that over, and, if you decide it is good advice, follow it. If you do
not, I suspect you had best be prepared for some to begin the flamewar
discussed in these threads and for others to complain to your ISP and news
server.

[Larry Linson]

The original post was not posted by
"Larry Linson" <no****@nospam. net>
but by someone impersonating him.

As a founding member of this newsgroup
I can tell you that advertising has always
been welcomed here. This is especially
true for our MVPs who deserve to run
ads for all the good work they do. The
only rule for advertising in this newsgroup
is to make sure that you put all your ads
in your signature line. If you just post
URLs that seem to answer a question
but actually lead to an advertisement,
that's OK too.

This was posted by an impersonator. The views that I supposedly endorse are
what Don P Mellon, XMVP, and other sockpuppets have claimed were the case.

Some might cut some slack for regular, frequent, helpful posters here, if
they broke the rules. That would be because of their heavy contributions
over time. But they do not break the rules because they respect the rules
and the spirit of the newsgroup.

Don P Mellon, XMVP, and his other sockpuppets, like PC Datasheet and his set
of sockpuppets, have no respect for the rules nor the spirit of the
newsgroup. The Mellon personae view it as a ground to carry out a vendetta
against helpful participants and the PC Datasheet personae seem to view it
as a source for salable information and his personal point of contact for
soliciting business.

Larry

[Neil]

>>It's obvious that he is *very* determined and willing to keep on

advertising.< <

Think about it: why would he *need* to keep on advertising?? Most of us get
clients and retain relationships with them. From time to time we need new
clients, but not continuously. Someone who has a continuous need to get new
clients obviously has trouble holding onto them. That should tell everyone
something.

Neil

[Neil]

> Ignore him and eventually he will slither away

on his belly like any snake does.

But you're still here. So that doesn't make sense.