Great Reasons Not To Learn VB.NET - PART 1

[Master Programmer]

Thinking of learning VB.NET? New programmer? Thinking of Moving over
from VB 6.0?

Read on friend, let me help you make a more informed decision....... ..
Microsoft are a pathetic company, but they have got worse over the last

5 years. Here are just a few reasons (there are many more), not to
sacrifice
your time learning a computer language that they have control over.

Stupid marketing
*************** *****
Plenty of retarded marketing that no-one understands. Shrouding their
unwanted products in mystery. Read the web site and try to figure out
what each product "actually does". Steamlines workflow seamlessly -
blah blah fucking blah - it all means nothing to me - just
unintelligible marketing hype.
Constant change without benefit
*************** *************** *******
Invest you time over years learning computer languages and techniques -

only to have the techniques changed every 2 years and languages
discontinued. So you can flush everything you have learned down the
toilet.
What's more the "newer" "better" way is never newer or better.
Instead it is slower - with more code to write, more stupid wizards
that you don't want because you know you can't trust them and must
remain in control.
Changing the way recordsets work so that the underlying format is xml -

even though you don't need or want the additional complexity - as its
unnecessary for a normal database and you don't want to send text
files across the internet for every data use.
Total disregard for customers
*************** *************** ****
Despite a disappointed reaction from existing vb 6.0 developers MS
decided to to discontinue Visual Basic 4 years ago. VB.NET (or
whatever their stupid marketing dept is calling it this week) is not
actualy visual basic, it is a different language than vb 6.0, with only

a few syntax similarities. They only called it VB.NET to con the
existing VB 6.0 userbase into trying it - kind of insulting to the
intelligence. That truly is a representation of the despise that they
as a company show towards customers that have purchased products from
them over a number of years. Imagine what the amount would be in
dollars if you calculate the money that companies and individuals have
lost through wasted time since the introduction of vb.net.
I for one do not plan of getting screwed over by Microsoft again. From
now on I will be using open source solutions and programming languages.

Languages that do not leave you at the mercy of these idiots.
The Grand Master
*** VbCrLF: "Visual Basic Classic Revival Liberation Front" ***
*** VB 6.0 Jihad - Fighing for what belongs to us. ***
*** http://classicvb.org/Petition ***

[Blake]

Oh Yeah? I don't believe you.

The only way you can prove it is by going away and never coming back.

If we hear from you again in here we will have to assume that you
cannot infact stay away from VB.NET.

lol.
Master Programmer wrote:

I for one do not plan of getting screwed over by Microsoft again. From
now on I will be using open source solutions and programming languages.

Languages that do not leave you at the mercy of these idiots.
The Grand Master
*** VbCrLF: "Visual Basic Classic Revival Liberation Front" ***
*** VB 6.0 Jihad - Fighing for what belongs to us. ***
*** http://classicvb.org/Petition ***

[Master Programmer]

There is no reason to be rude, I am just trying to help aspiring
programmers by giving them a real picture of Microsoft and why they
should not use the software.

If you have nothing constructive to add I suggest you keep your ugly
mouth firmly closed.

The Grand Master

Blake wrote:

Oh Yeah? I don't believe you.

The only way you can prove it is by going away and never coming back.

If we hear from you again in here we will have to assume that you
cannot infact stay away from VB.NET.

lol.
Master Programmer wrote:

I for one do not plan of getting screwed over by Microsoft again. From
now on I will be using open source solutions and programming languages.

Languages that do not leave you at the mercy of these idiots.
The Grand Master
*** VbCrLF: "Visual Basic Classic Revival Liberation Front" ***
*** VB 6.0 Jihad - Fighing for what belongs to us. ***
*** http://classicvb.org/Petition ***

[Blake]

"Master" programmer loves VB.NET!

:-)

Master Programmer wrote:

There is no reason to be rude, I am just trying to help aspiring
programmers by giving them a real picture of Microsoft and why they
should not use the software.

If you have nothing constructive to add I suggest you keep your ugly
mouth firmly closed.

The Grand Master

Blake wrote:

Oh Yeah? I don't believe you.

The only way you can prove it is by going away and never coming back.

If we hear from you again in here we will have to assume that you
cannot infact stay away from VB.NET.

lol.
Master Programmer wrote:

I for one do not plan of getting screwed over by Microsoft again. From
now on I will be using open source solutions and programming languages.
>
Languages that do not leave you at the mercy of these idiots.
>
>
The Grand Master
*** VbCrLF: "Visual Basic Classic Revival Liberation Front" ***
*** VB 6.0 Jihad - Fighing for what belongs to us. ***
*** http://classicvb.org/Petition ***

[Master Programmer]

Actually I am thinking of creating an open source project (in vb 6.0)
to completely remove any version of the framework, VS and .NET
programs. It will remove files, clean the registry and obliterate any
trace of anything .NET. First I will copy all files to one location
then perform a low level format on them.

If anyone is interested in being involved just drop me a line.

The Grand Master
Blake wrote:

"Master" programmer loves VB.NET!

:-)

Master Programmer wrote:

There is no reason to be rude, I am just trying to help aspiring
programmers by giving them a real picture of Microsoft and why they
should not use the software.

If you have nothing constructive to add I suggest you keep your ugly
mouth firmly closed.

The Grand Master

Blake wrote:

Oh Yeah? I don't believe you.
>
The only way you can prove it is by going away and never coming back.
>
If we hear from you again in here we will have to assume that you
cannot infact stay away from VB.NET.
>
lol.
>
>
Master Programmer wrote:
I for one do not plan of getting screwed over by Microsoft again. From
now on I will be using open source solutions and programming languages.

Languages that do not leave you at the mercy of these idiots.


The Grand Master
*** VbCrLF: "Visual Basic Classic Revival Liberation Front" ***
*** VB 6.0 Jihad - Fighing for what belongs to us. ***
*** http://classicvb.org/Petition ***

[BK]

Supported by one of the largest companies in the world

A huge programmer base to draw from

If you want to freelance, you'll NEVER be out of work (I get an average
of 8-10 calls/emails a week for .Net positions)

Constant change for the better, the framework just keeps adding more
benefit and 3.0 looks great to me (Work Flow, woohoo)

Incredible support for any type of data

Fantastic support for customers (Me and 3 coworkers went to the Tech
Center in Reston last Spring for 3 days and MS devoted a group of
technical folks to outline future plans for OS, NOS, development tools,
Office, etc., what other company does this?)
I can't believe I was against .Net 3 years ago. This is the most
robust, intuitive language I've ever worked with. I worked with
QuickBasic 4.5 and 7.0 professional many years ago. I remember when VB
1 came out and a lot of programmers were upset. I guess the difference
between me and Master Baiter (and Aaron) is that instead of whining
like my 2 yr old daughter, I just learned the new technology and moved
on.

[raibeart]

I am still trying to figure out what he is a master programmer of...

Maybe his VCR.

[james]

Go one step further and take it all the way back to DOS. :-)
Hope your emailbox doesn't get too overloaded from all the responses
to your project.
james

"Master Programmer" <ma************ ***@outgun.comw rote in message
news:11******** **************@ 16g2000cwy.goog legroups.com...

Actually I am thinking of creating an open source project (in vb 6.0)
to completely remove any version of the framework, VS and .NET
programs. It will remove files, clean the registry and obliterate any
trace of anything .NET. First I will copy all files to one location
then perform a low level format on them.

If anyone is interested in being involved just drop me a line.

The Grand Master
Blake wrote:

>"Master" programmer loves VB.NET!

:-)

Master Programmer wrote:

There is no reason to be rude, I am just trying to help aspiring
programmers by giving them a real picture of Microsoft and why they
should not use the software.

If you have nothing constructive to add I suggest you keep your ugly
mouth firmly closed.

The Grand Master

Blake wrote:
Oh Yeah? I don't believe you.

The only way you can prove it is by going away and never coming back.

If we hear from you again in here we will have to assume that you
cannot infact stay away from VB.NET.

lol.
Master Programmer wrote:
I for one do not plan of getting screwed over by Microsoft again.
From
now on I will be using open source solutions and programming
languages.

Languages that do not leave you at the mercy of these idiots.
The Grand Master
*** VbCrLF: "Visual Basic Classic Revival Liberation Front" ***
*** VB 6.0 Jihad - Fighing for what belongs to us. ***
*** http://classicvb.org/Petition ***

[R]

Dear Master Programmer,

You are in the wrong newsgroup mate. The guys who work with VB do it for money,
not because it's considered to be cool, but because industry pays us to get solutions in
hours rather than in weeks or months. From an industry point of view, using .Net saves
companies money and thats it.

From a programmer view, it has a decent tools, a good debugger and runtime errors
and bugs which surface after a rollout can normally be rectified within a few hours. The
code that takes 300 lines of VB (or turning to the APi), can be done in one line using a
Common Control with .Net.

If you want a cool VB6 project, develop a module that dispatches instructions to
multiple CPU's, if they are present, which integrates transparently to our projects.

;-)

Cheers.

"james" <jj************ ***@earthlink.n etwrote:

>Go one step further and take it all the way back to DOS. :-)
Hope your emailbox doesn't get too overloaded from all the responses
to your project.
james

"Master Programmer" <ma************ ***@outgun.comw rote in message
news:11******* *************** @16g2000cwy.goo glegroups.com.. .

>Actually I am thinking of creating an open source project (in vb 6.0)
to completely remove any version of the framework, VS and .NET
programs. It will remove files, clean the registry and obliterate any
trace of anything .NET. First I will copy all files to one location
then perform a low level format on them.

If anyone is interested in being involved just drop me a line.

The Grand Master
Blake wrote:

>>"Master" programmer loves VB.NET!

:-)

Master Programmer wrote:
There is no reason to be rude, I am just trying to help aspiring
programmers by giving them a real picture of Microsoft and why they
should not use the software.

If you have nothing constructive to add I suggest you keep your ugly
mouth firmly closed.

The Grand Master

Blake wrote:
Oh Yeah? I don't believe you.

The only way you can prove it is by going away and never coming back.

If we hear from you again in here we will have to assume that you
cannot infact stay away from VB.NET.

lol.
Master Programmer wrote:
I for one do not plan of getting screwed over by Microsoft again.
From
now on I will be using open source solutions and programming
languages.

Languages that do not leave you at the mercy of these idiots.
The Grand Master
*** VbCrLF: "Visual Basic Classic Revival Liberation Front" ***
*** VB 6.0 Jihad - Fighing for what belongs to us. ***
*** http://classicvb.org/Petition ***

[aaron.kempf]

Blake

eat shit, Master Programmer for CEO OF MICROSOFT

you got my vote, bro

VB.net sucks.. again.. what is it called THIS WEEK?

it's all going to change again; MS just wants to make you upgrade 4
times every DECADE

fuckers in Redmond should be drawn and QUARTERED for treating us like
this.

VB.net is the redheaded stepchild of C#; it will never be successful.
I have a friend at Microsoft that told me that they're going to
discontinue the language

-Aaron
ADP Nationalist

Blake wrote:

Oh Yeah? I don't believe you.

The only way you can prove it is by going away and never coming back.

If we hear from you again in here we will have to assume that you
cannot infact stay away from VB.NET.

lol.
Master Programmer wrote:

I for one do not plan of getting screwed over by Microsoft again. From
now on I will be using open source solutions and programming languages.

Languages that do not leave you at the mercy of these idiots.
The Grand Master
*** VbCrLF: "Visual Basic Classic Revival Liberation Front" ***
*** VB 6.0 Jihad - Fighing for what belongs to us. ***
*** http://classicvb.org/Petition ***