Not Another C# Versus VB Article (It has a lot to say about Anders and Delphi)

[Arjang]

http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/CSharpVersusVB.asp

[Earl]

While I agree with the central premise that the C# "culture" will always be
considered "better" than the VB.Net "culture", the writer of this article
makes leaps of logic that would cause any application he wrote to fail, and
further, goes down the slippery slope of making derogatory comparisons
between "classic" VB and C# rather than between VB.Net and C# (without even
acknowleding to himself that he did so!). Despite the apparent soundness of
his thesis, his logic is extremely faulty.
"Arjang" <Ar************ ****@NotTheReal Part.zorg> wrote in message
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[Cor Ligthert]

Arjang,

This paragraph in the article shows everything about its quality.
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80% of C# programmers are good, while 80% of VB programmers are not good.
This is not to say that everyone who programs in VB is less skilled than
everyone who programs in C#. This is to say that (a) the VB syntax and
semantics is designed to attract less skilled programmers and, in
combination with other factors examined above, this has created a culture
that is populated with less skilled programmers and (b) because VB syntax
and semantics make it more difficult to avoid common programming errors and
hence to program well
-------------.

Beside that the author is comparing Apples with computers, does he in the
rest of is article and his conclusion not take the impact of his sentence.

This sentence of him means that there are enormous much more good VB
programmers than that there are good C# programmers?

This article shows for me something as a person who is in doubt if he took
the right choose, however tries to proof the world that he did.

Cor

[Larry Lard]

Arjang wrote:

http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/CSharpVersusVB.asp

Poor article: badly written, false in many places, many logical
fallacies (the 'appeal to authority' invocation of Wirth is almost a
canonical example), can't decide whether he is writing about VB6 or
VB.NET, and he doesn't even know when to use 'less' and when to use
'fewer'.

--
Larry Lard
Replies to group please

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

"Arjang" <Ar************ ****@NotTheReal Part.zorg> schrieb:

http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/CSharpVersusVB.asp

I recently posted my comments on technical points laid out in the article in
German (for those who are able to understand German):

<URL:http://www.google.es/groups?selm=Oqg qdipRFHA.2736%4 0TK2MSFTNGP09.p hx.gbl>

--
M S Herfried K. Wagner
M V P <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/>
V B <URL:http://classicvb.org/petition/>

[Robin Tucker]

Yes, I have to admit to being interested with the first few paragraphs but
then thrust into the conclusions well before the arguments or logic merited
any.

Having said that, I have read quite a few articles recently that say a C#
programmer will generally get paid more than a VB.NET programmer. This does
my gnads in slightly, if only because I spent a while trying to persuade my
manager that I should write "this software" in C# as it is functionally the
same as VB.NET, but looks a little more like C++ ;). I failed and now call
myself a VB.NET programmer (as I had to learn one or the other in order to
code it). Should I regret this in the future? I suppose I should learn the
C# syntax - it can't be so difficult, apart from the annoying semi colons I
need at the end of each statement, but as I was previously a C and then C++
programmer, I can't really complain too much about this.

No, thinking about it, the fact that variables are not case sensitive and I
don't need semi colons at the end of statements are perhaps the two major
bonus points of VB.NET over C# ;)

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[Cor Ligthert]

Herfried,

The first sentence was in my opinion enough.

Der Artikel ist geprägt von m.E. unzutreffenden Vorurteilen und darauf
basierenden, ebenso inrichtigen Implikationen. Ich habe mir die Mühe
gemacht, die Punkte aus dem Abschnitt "Propagatio n of Culture in .NET"
genauer anzusehen und zu kommentieren:

:-)

Cor

[Robin Tucker]

Someone please translate ;)

"Cor Ligthert" <no************ @planet.nl> wrote in message
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Herfried,

The first sentence was in my opinion enough.

Der Artikel ist geprägt von m.E. unzutreffenden Vorurteilen und darauf
basierenden, ebenso inrichtigen Implikationen. Ich habe mir die Mühe
gemacht, die Punkte aus dem Abschnitt "Propagatio n of Culture in .NET"
genauer anzusehen und zu kommentieren:

:-)

Cor

[Cor Ligthert]

Robin,

In my opinion is there only one big benefit from VBNet above C#, which is
the in my opinion superior IDE from VBNet.

Don't be afraid to start with C# when you know the classes from Net than it
is a piece of cake. You will however be astonished when you have done VBNet
how primitive the IDE from C# is.

Cor

[Cor Ligthert]

Robin,

With the change to get comments from two language sides.

Der Artikel ist geprägt von m.E. unzutreffenden Vorurteilen und darauf
basierenden, ebenso inrichtigen Implikationen.
The article is lard by m.E. with not realistic bias and gives therefore the
same results.
Ich habe mir die Mühe
gemacht, die Punkte aus dem Abschnitt "Propagatio n of Culture in .NET"
genauer anzusehen und zu kommentieren:

I have taken the effort, the points from the part "Propagatio n of Culture in
..NET" better to investigate and to comment.

Just a try

:-)

Cor