Not Another C# Versus VB Article (It has a lot to say about Anders and Delphi)

[Arjang]

http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/CSharpVersusVB.asp

[Robin Tucker]

Will intellisense automatically stick a semi-colon at the end of a
statement? ;)

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Cor,

"Cor Ligthert" <no************ @planet.nl> schrieb:

The IDE support for C# (except the lack of a background-compiler for C#)
is AFAIS better than the support for VB in VS 2005 :-(((.

I find the main point of VBNet, the backgroundcompi ler, which include for
me as well autocomplete. What are the new benefits from the IDE from C#
that outclasses VBNet.

C# will have much better IntelliSense, more syntax-highlighting and code
formatting options, SmartTags for inserting 'using', ...

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[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

"Robin Tucker" <id************ *************@r eallyidont.com> schrieb:

Will intellisense automatically stick a semi-colon at the end of a
statement? ;)

AFAIK no, but it will help you to type keywords, similar to how it's
currently available for parts of VB.NET's 'Declare' statement.

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[Cor Ligthert]

Robin,

For me is not the adding of a semicolon, however inteligent keeping the
opening and clossing of paragraphs.

I like every day more that when I set an "if then" that there is than
automaticly created an end if. I see that with VBNet I even am nesting more
than I did in past.

I wished that in C# was that when I typed an "{" there was automatic an "}"
in place.

Cor

[Michael C#]

If you want a blast from the past, how about Turbo Pascal 5.5?
http://community.borla nd.com/all/0,1435,museum|0 |30,00.html

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On Fri, 20 May 2005 12:47:54 +1000, "Arjang"
<Ar************ ****@NotTheReal Part.zorg> wrote:

http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/CSharpVersusVB.asp

There are a few inaccuracy in the article as regards the history of
Borland Pascal, which it claims was the first commercially available
Pascal.

For the record USCD was available prior to Borland Pascal 3 and of
course Anders and Niels Kompass Pascal 1 and 2 predate Phillipe Kahn
persuading them to remarket the company as Borland (appearing to be
American rather than European) and selling the product cheaply, if I
remember correctly the UK price was £35 as compared to £250 for
version 2, with a restrictive license.

Doug Taylor

[Robin Tucker]

Yes, i have learned over time that nesting is generally bad for readability
and maintainability in any case. I try to unitise tests, even if it means
the same test might be repeated twice in a block - as a stupid noddy example
(note, I tend to do this when there are 2 or 3 or more nesting levels,
rather than this examples):
If aThing and not bThing Then
' Do thing 1
End If

If aThing Then
' Do thing 2
End If

rather than:
If aThing Then

If not bThing Then
' Do thing 1
End If

' Do thing 2

End If
"Cor Ligthert" <no************ @planet.nl> wrote in message
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Robin,

For me is not the adding of a semicolon, however inteligent keeping the
opening and clossing of paragraphs.

I like every day more that when I set an "if then" that there is than
automaticly created an end if. I see that with VBNet I even am nesting
more than I did in past.

I wished that in C# was that when I typed an "{" there was automatic an
"}" in place.

Cor

[Cor Ligthert]

Robin,

In your sample is in my opinion not much need for nesting.

However, there are a lot of situations, where a good nested written program
is much more readable than those from people who have force themselves not
to use that.

However just my thought,

Cor

[Doug Taylor]

On Tue, 24 May 2005 15:36:19 +0200, "Cor Ligthert"
<no************ @planet.nl> wrote:

Robin,

In your sample is in my opinion not much need for nesting.

However, there are a lot of situations, where a good nested written program
is much more readable than those from people who have force themselves not
to use that.

However just my thought,

Cor

I would agree with Cor, but it is a matter of personal preference, I
prefer nesting rather than having complicated if clauses, I find I'm
less likely to make mistakes that way. I find it easier to read my
intentions later and easier to comment the code.

Doug Taylor

[Robin Tucker]

Yes, it's better for reading intentions to use nesting. But changing the
intention may be more difficult. I think IF nesting complexity is a common
quality metric (although it all depends on the situation).

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On Tue, 24 May 2005 15:36:19 +0200, "Cor Ligthert"
<no************ @planet.nl> wrote:

Robin,

In your sample is in my opinion not much need for nesting.

However, there are a lot of situations, where a good nested written
program
is much more readable than those from people who have force themselves not
to use that.

However just my thought,

Cor

I would agree with Cor, but it is a matter of personal preference, I
prefer nesting rather than having complicated if clauses, I find I'm
less likely to make mistakes that way. I find it easier to read my
intentions later and easier to comment the code.

Doug Taylor

[Charles D. Quarles]

Hi Doug,

"Doug Taylor" <Do************ @tayNOSPAMmade. demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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On Fri, 20 May 2005 12:47:54 +1000, "Arjang"
<Ar************ ****@NotTheReal Part.zorg> wrote:

http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/CSharpVersusVB.asp

There are a few inaccuracy in the article as regards the history of
Borland Pascal, which it claims was the first commercially available
Pascal.

For the record USCD was available prior to Borland Pascal 3 and of
course Anders and Niels Kompass Pascal 1 and 2 predate Phillipe Kahn
persuading them to remarket the company as Borland (appearing to be
American rather than European) and selling the product cheaply, if I
remember correctly the UK price was £35 as compared to £250 for
version 2, with a restrictive license.

Doug Taylor

I bought a copy of Apple Pascal ca 1984. This was a version of the UCSD
pcode system. I paid $500 US for it ;) back then. What a world :).

Charles

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

"Earl" <br******@newsg roups.nospam> schrieb:

How about translating the entire post!?

I feel sorry, but I currently don't have enough time to do that...

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