I keep hearing persistant rumors (along with my own experience) that .NET is
going to be abandon by Microsoft due to performance & security issues? I
realize no one from Microsoft is likely to confirm this publically, but if
anyone that does have insider knowledge, could you provide some feedback
(private or public). My company is on the verge of migrating to .NET, but
we've ran into several performance issues (mostly on the GUI side) and some
big security issues and we're not sure they can be resolved without a
fundamental "shift" from Microsoft. I've very hesitant to migrate all our
code over until I can get a firm grasp on where .NET is going and for how
long and what issues are going to be resolved.
Thank you.
Rob.
Nov 21 '05
41  1958 
Please stop the flag waving, I'm just not interested. But more importantly
stop reading more into my questions/comments than what I actually wrote.
For those of you that responded to my comments/concerns with good
information, thank you. I'll see if these suggestions can solve my current
concerns. Does anyone have specific examples of control/form paint
performance optimization? I have yet to discover a way to make a large
number of controls paint quickly in .NET.
Hopefully the next framework version will be good enough to retain full
managed business application.
Rob
"Larry Serflaten" <se*******@usin ternet.com> wrote in message
news:e8******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP15.phx.gbl...
"Rob R. Ainscough" <ro*****@pacbel l.net> wrote I keep hearing persistant rumors (along with my own experience) that .NET
is
going to be abandon by Microsoft due to performance & security issues?
That was good for a laugh, thanks!
Do you also keep tin foil available to keep 'them' from putting thoughts
into
your head? You might consider it since 'they' seem to have succeeded in
making you think managed code will be abandoned....
<g>
LFS
Hi Rob,
I sent an email with more info to your ro*****@pacbell .net address and got
this: ro*****@pacbell .net
SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<ro*****@pac bell.net>:
host pbimail4.prodig y.net [64.164.98.64]: 553 5.3.0 <ro*****@pacbel l.net>...
Addressee unknown, relay=[207.217.120.181]
--
Mike
Mike McIntyre
Visual Basic MVP www.getdotnetcode.com
"Rob R. Ainscough" <ro*****@pacbel l.net> wrote in message
news:e4******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP12.phx.gbl... I don't have time to troll, I need to make an important decision.
Microsoft's shift in "supported" directions have left open questions and
fear in the past -- there are some pretty significant issues with .NET and
how these issues are address now and in the future is critical to my
decision.
And I certainly don't include fa**@address.co m as you do, so please none
of this "integrity" crap, I don't have time for it.
"Richard Myers" <fa**@address.c om> wrote in message
news:uw******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP15.phx.gbl... Are you sure your not trolling Rob?
Richard
Hi Rob,
I sent an email with more info to your ro*****@pacbell .net address and got
this: ro*****@pacbell .net
SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<ro*****@pac bell.net>:
host pbimail4.prodig y.net [64.164.98.64]: 553 5.3.0 <ro*****@pacbel l.net>...
Addressee unknown, relay=[207.217.120.181]
--
Mike
Mike McIntyre
Visual Basic MVP www.getdotnetcode.com
"Rob R. Ainscough" <ro*****@pacbel l.net> wrote in message
news:e4******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP12.phx.gbl... I don't have time to troll, I need to make an important decision.
Microsoft's shift in "supported" directions have left open questions and
fear in the past -- there are some pretty significant issues with .NET and
how these issues are address now and in the future is critical to my
decision.
And I certainly don't include fa**@address.co m as you do, so please none
of this "integrity" crap, I don't have time for it.
"Richard Myers" <fa**@address.c om> wrote in message
news:uw******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP15.phx.gbl... Are you sure your not trolling Rob?
Richard
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 16:48:49 -0600, "Larry Serflaten"
<se*******@usin ternet.com> wrote:
"Rob R. Ainscough" <ro*****@pacbel l.net> wrote I keep hearing persistant rumors (along with my own experience) that .NET is
going to be abandon by Microsoft due to performance & security issues?
That was good for a laugh, thanks!
Do you also keep tin foil available to keep 'them' from putting thoughts into
your head? You might consider it since 'they' seem to have succeeded in
making you think managed code will be abandoned....
<g>
LFS
Common give the guy break, platform decisions are fundamental and the
wrong decision can hurt.
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 16:48:49 -0600, "Larry Serflaten"
<se*******@usin ternet.com> wrote:
"Rob R. Ainscough" <ro*****@pacbel l.net> wrote I keep hearing persistant rumors (along with my own experience) that .NET is
going to be abandon by Microsoft due to performance & security issues?
That was good for a laugh, thanks!
Do you also keep tin foil available to keep 'them' from putting thoughts into
your head? You might consider it since 'they' seem to have succeeded in
making you think managed code will be abandoned....
<g>
LFS
Common give the guy break, platform decisions are fundamental and the
wrong decision can hurt.
where do they want to take it in 5yrs? they want to make it the main method
of programming in upcomming OS's.. Microsoft Windows Longhorn will depend
heavely on .NET instead of MFC for coding. .NET is not something that will
die, and is going to be implemented more and more as the years go by.
"Rob R. Ainscough" <ro*****@pacbel l.net> wrote in message
news:ud******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP11.phx.gbl... Performance is more GUI specific, slow redraws/repaints of forms/controls
as compared to VB6 or VC or C++. Data gathering is pretty quick (from SQL
server or Access or whatever else), but control population is VERY slow.
Security in regards to the fundamental implementation of .NET -- since it
is one level removed interpreted (albeit, highly optimized interpretation)
it is pretty easy to swap in "rogue" code.
Another issue is the missing features in the current .NET release that
make it hard for developers to remain in the "managed" world of .NET.
My sources are from some relatively large organizations such as Bank of
the West, Bank of America, SBC, ATI, and a few others -- from senior
management and developers influential in the decision process.
Can YOU be more specific in addressing where Microsoft plan to take .NET
in the next 5 years?
Thanks, Rob.
"Mike McIntyre" <mi****@dotnets howandtell.com> wrote in message
news:O9******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP15.phx.gbl... No, it is not being dropped. Where did you hear such a thing?
Performance issues will be in the way you implement .NET, not in the
technology itself.
Same with security.
Feel free to post your specific problems here - or write to me directly
if you like.
--
Mike
Mike McIntyre
Visual Basic MVP
www.getdotnetcode.com
"Rob R. Ainscough" <ro*****@pacbel l.net> wrote in message
news:Og******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP11.phx.gbl...I keep hearing persistant rumors (along with my own experience) that .NET
is going to be abandon by Microsoft due to performance & security issues?
I realize no one from Microsoft is likely to confirm this publically, but
if anyone that does have insider knowledge, could you provide some
feedback (private or public). My company is on the verge of migrating to
.NET, but we've ran into several performance issues (mostly on the GUI
side) and some big security issues and we're not sure they can be
resolved without a fundamental "shift" from Microsoft. I've very
hesitant to migrate all our code over until I can get a firm grasp on
where .NET is going and for how long and what issues are going to be
resolved.
Thank you.
Rob.
where do they want to take it in 5yrs? they want to make it the main method
of programming in upcomming OS's.. Microsoft Windows Longhorn will depend
heavely on .NET instead of MFC for coding. .NET is not something that will
die, and is going to be implemented more and more as the years go by.
"Rob R. Ainscough" <ro*****@pacbel l.net> wrote in message
news:ud******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP11.phx.gbl... Performance is more GUI specific, slow redraws/repaints of forms/controls
as compared to VB6 or VC or C++. Data gathering is pretty quick (from SQL
server or Access or whatever else), but control population is VERY slow.
Security in regards to the fundamental implementation of .NET -- since it
is one level removed interpreted (albeit, highly optimized interpretation)
it is pretty easy to swap in "rogue" code.
Another issue is the missing features in the current .NET release that
make it hard for developers to remain in the "managed" world of .NET.
My sources are from some relatively large organizations such as Bank of
the West, Bank of America, SBC, ATI, and a few others -- from senior
management and developers influential in the decision process.
Can YOU be more specific in addressing where Microsoft plan to take .NET
in the next 5 years?
Thanks, Rob.
"Mike McIntyre" <mi****@dotnets howandtell.com> wrote in message
news:O9******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP15.phx.gbl... No, it is not being dropped. Where did you hear such a thing?
Performance issues will be in the way you implement .NET, not in the
technology itself.
Same with security.
Feel free to post your specific problems here - or write to me directly
if you like.
--
Mike
Mike McIntyre
Visual Basic MVP
www.getdotnetcode.com
"Rob R. Ainscough" <ro*****@pacbel l.net> wrote in message
news:Og******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP11.phx.gbl...I keep hearing persistant rumors (along with my own experience) that .NET
is going to be abandon by Microsoft due to performance & security issues?
I realize no one from Microsoft is likely to confirm this publically, but
if anyone that does have insider knowledge, could you provide some
feedback (private or public). My company is on the verge of migrating to
.NET, but we've ran into several performance issues (mostly on the GUI
side) and some big security issues and we're not sure they can be
resolved without a fundamental "shift" from Microsoft. I've very
hesitant to migrate all our code over until I can get a firm grasp on
where .NET is going and for how long and what issues are going to be
resolved.
Thank you.
Rob.
Rob,
AFAIK are they droping the that awfull unsearchable word ".Net" in their
productnames.
By instance what could have been Visual Studio .Net 2005 will be named
something as Visual Studio 2005.
However that is an upgrade from the Visual Studo .Net 2003 not from Visual
Studio 6
Cor
"Rob R. Ainscough" <ro*****@pacbel l.net> I keep hearing persistant rumors (along with my own experience) that .NET
is going to be abandon by Microsoft due to performance & security issues?
I realize no one from Microsoft is likely to confirm this publically, but
if anyone that does have insider knowledge, could you provide some feedback
(private or public). My company is on the verge of migrating to .NET, but
we've ran into several performance issues (mostly on the GUI side) and some
big security issues and we're not sure they can be resolved without a
fundamental "shift" from Microsoft. I've very hesitant to migrate all our
code over until I can get a firm grasp on where .NET is going and for how
long and what issues are going to be resolved.
Thank you.
Rob.
Rob,
AFAIK are they droping the that awfull unsearchable word ".Net" in their
productnames.
By instance what could have been Visual Studio .Net 2005 will be named
something as Visual Studio 2005.
However that is an upgrade from the Visual Studo .Net 2003 not from Visual
Studio 6
Cor
"Rob R. Ainscough" <ro*****@pacbel l.net> I keep hearing persistant rumors (along with my own experience) that .NET
is going to be abandon by Microsoft due to performance & security issues?
I realize no one from Microsoft is likely to confirm this publically, but
if anyone that does have insider knowledge, could you provide some feedback
(private or public). My company is on the verge of migrating to .NET, but
we've ran into several performance issues (mostly on the GUI side) and some
big security issues and we're not sure they can be resolved without a
fundamental "shift" from Microsoft. I've very hesitant to migrate all our
code over until I can get a firm grasp on where .NET is going and for how
long and what issues are going to be resolved.
Thank you.
Rob.
SLAP. How many times is he going to say things like "I am just not
interested" and "I haven't got time". Please don't reply to this
thread as he is just trolling.
MS dropping .NET? Ridiculous. Are they going to drop Windows next?
Rob - for someone supposedly making "key business decisions" you seem
pretty stupid. Another perfect example of "the peter principle" here.
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