Python ISPs

[Paradox]

Does anyone know of some ISPs that have Mod_Python installed. Most
seem to allow Python CGI but not things like Mod_Python or Spyce. Is
this a viable solution or should I just learn PHP. I would prefer to
leverage my Python knowledge but I also would like a fast robust
solution.

Thanks Joey.

[Ulrich Petri]

"Paradox" <Jo*****@netzero.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Does anyone know of some ISPs that have Mod_Python installed. Most
seem to allow Python CGI but not things like Mod_Python or Spyce. Is
this a viable solution or should I just learn PHP. I would prefer to
leverage my Python knowledge but I also would like a fast robust
solution.

You could go for one of those virtual servers all for yourself...

Ciao Ulrich

[M-a-S]

It seems that Spyce uses underlaying Python, either CGI or mod_python.
I have only CGI Python (Windows XP, Apache) and Spyce works quite well.

PS. I know, this doesn't answer your question. Just clarification.

M-a-S
"Paradox" <Jo*****@netzero.com> wrote in message news:92**************************@posting.google.c om...

Does anyone know of some ISPs that have Mod_Python installed. Most
seem to allow Python CGI but not things like Mod_Python or Spyce. Is
this a viable solution or should I just learn PHP. I would prefer to
leverage my Python knowledge but I also would like a fast robust
solution.

Thanks Joey.

[Lukasz Pankowski]

Jo*****@netzero.com (Paradox) writes:

Does anyone know of some ISPs that have Mod_Python installed. Most
seem to allow Python CGI but not things like Mod_Python or Spyce. Is
this a viable solution or should I just learn PHP. I would prefer to
leverage my Python knowledge but I also would like a fast robust
solution.

Thanks Joey.

I know only one commercial webside: http://www.python-hosting.com/,
they have mod_python, Spyce and many more (Zope, Plone, Nuxeo CPS,
Silva, Webware, Twisted, CherryPy, SkunkWeb, Quixote, 4Suite Server,
Spyce, Albatross, Cheetah, mod_python, Straight CGI)

for free testing of CherryPy consider http://www.freecherrypy.org/

newer used, just know it exist

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=*= Lukasz Pankowski =*=

[Alan Kennedy]

Paradox wrote:

Does anyone know of some ISPs that have Mod_Python installed.

Check out the Python hosting Wiki. The "SpecializedCommercialHosts"
page lists three hosting companies that support mod_python.

http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/moinmo...ommercialHosts

If you know of any others that are not listed there, then please add
the information to that wiki.

regards,

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[Andy Todd]

Paradox wrote:

Does anyone know of some ISPs that have Mod_Python installed. Most
seem to allow Python CGI but not things like Mod_Python or Spyce. Is
this a viable solution or should I just learn PHP. I would prefer to
leverage my Python knowledge but I also would like a fast robust
solution.

Thanks Joey.

http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/moinmoin/PythonHosting

Regards,
Andy
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[Anand Pillai]

How about freezope.org ? They provide free zope
hosting. I think they allow you to add custom
python scripts to the zope server they run.

You get to create a freezope domain like
yourdomain.freezope.org.

It is a pretty neat provider.

-Anand

Lukasz Pankowski <lu***@zamek.gda.pl> wrote in message news:<87************@psi.lupan.zamek.gda.pl>...

Jo*****@netzero.com (Paradox) writes:

Does anyone know of some ISPs that have Mod_Python installed. Most
seem to allow Python CGI but not things like Mod_Python or Spyce. Is
this a viable solution or should I just learn PHP. I would prefer to
leverage my Python knowledge but I also would like a fast robust
solution.

Thanks Joey.

I know only one commercial webside: http://www.python-hosting.com/,
they have mod_python, Spyce and many more (Zope, Plone, Nuxeo CPS,
Silva, Webware, Twisted, CherryPy, SkunkWeb, Quixote, 4Suite Server,
Spyce, Albatross, Cheetah, mod_python, Straight CGI)

for free testing of CherryPy consider http://www.freecherrypy.org/

newer used, just know it exist

[Lothar Scholz]

"Ulrich Petri" <ul***@gmx.de> wrote in message news:<bk***********@ID-67890.news.uni-berlin.de>...

"Paradox" <Jo*****@netzero.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:92**************************@posting.google.c om...

Does anyone know of some ISPs that have Mod_Python installed. Most
seem to allow Python CGI but not things like Mod_Python or Spyce. Is
this a viable solution or should I just learn PHP. I would prefer to
leverage my Python knowledge but I also would like a fast robust
solution.

You could go for one of those virtual servers all for yourself...

Most (all !?) of this virtual servers are the worst i've ever seen.

Putting 100 customers on a 1 GB 2x2 GHz maschine is not a good thing
if everyone must install there own MySQL,Apache etc.

[Cliff Wells]

On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 13:24, Paradox wrote:

Does anyone know of some ISPs that have Mod_Python installed. Most
seem to allow Python CGI but not things like Mod_Python or Spyce. Is
this a viable solution or should I just learn PHP. I would prefer to
leverage my Python knowledge but I also would like a fast robust
solution.

Interestingly enough, I just started a new job at
http://www.commandprompt.com and I convinced my boss yesterday that
Python-friendly hosting would be a good thing. If you're interested you
can email me offlist. We're pretty open to most things, including
third-party modules, specific Python version installs and the like.
There's only a few things my boss won't bend on (No Windows [Linux
only], no MySQL [PostgreSQL only], no gaping security holes). Other
than that, we're open to most other things.

We should have an announcement by Monday on c.l.py.announce with more
specific information.

Regards,
Cliff

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Days devoured by hungry nights
-Coil

[Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy]

On Fri, 19 Sep 2003, Lothar Scholz wrote:

"Ulrich Petri" <ul***@gmx.de> wrote in message news:<bk***********@ID-67890.news.uni-berlin.de>...

"Paradox" <Jo*****@netzero.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:92**************************@posting.google.c om...

Does anyone know of some ISPs that have Mod_Python installed. Most
seem to allow Python CGI but not things like Mod_Python or Spyce. Is
this a viable solution or should I just learn PHP. I would prefer to
leverage my Python knowledge but I also would like a fast robust
solution.

You could go for one of those virtual servers all for yourself...

Most (all !?) of this virtual servers are the worst i've ever seen.

Putting 100 customers on a 1 GB 2x2 GHz maschine is not a good thing
if everyone must install there own MySQL,Apache etc.

All web hosting companies suck this way. Only a dedicated physical server
would not have this issue.

But second to a colocation or a dedicated physical server, virtual servers
(especially FreeBSD jail(8) based) are the best (low cost) solution for
mod_python. I understand there are companies that have mod_python loaded
on a shared instance of Apache and provide access to databases using db
access controls, but I would never use such a service because there is no
way it can be anywhere nearly as secure (and in most cases it's just plain
insecure).
Grisha

[Stuart D. Gathman]

On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 01:38:57 -0400, Cliff Wells wrote:

On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 13:24, Paradox wrote:

Does anyone know of some ISPs that have Mod_Python installed. Most seem
to allow Python CGI but not things like Mod_Python or Spyce. Is this a
viable solution or should I just learn PHP. I would prefer to leverage
my Python knowledge but I also would like a fast robust solution.

Interestingly enough, I just started a new job at
http://www.commandprompt.com and I convinced my boss yesterday that
Python-friendly hosting would be a good thing. If you're interested you
can email me offlist. We're pretty open to most things, including
third-party modules, specific Python version installs and the like.
There's only a few things my boss won't bend on (No Windows [Linux
only], no MySQL [PostgreSQL only], no gaping security holes). Other
than that, we're open to most other things.

I was thinking about the security aspects of this. Wouldn't it be a good
idea to have each client (or the hosting company) run their own Python VM?
It could use fast_cgi so the VM would stay loaded. Python does not have
enough isolation to make multiple clients within a single VM a good idea.

We do this with Java (even though Java provides much better isolation than
Python, it is still pretty easy to DOS a VM with infinite loops and memory
hogging).

In addition to fast_cgi, the Python code can run its own micro web
server, and the shared Apached server simply proxies a subtree to the
Python server.

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Stuart D. Gathman <st****@bmsi.com>
Business Management Systems Inc. Phone: [phone] Fax: [phone]
"Confutatis maledictis, flamis acribus addictis" - background song for
a Microsoft sponsored "Where do you want to go from here?" commercial.